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Old 01-23-2006, 01:57 PM   #1
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Senior Bowl news & notes

Official weigh-in numbers taken from nfldraftcountdown.com:

This is the meat market where hundreds of scouts, coaches and personnel men gather in a ballroom and watch as each prospect is brought on stage in his shorts to be measured and weighed. The way to read the heights is as follows: The first number is "feet", the third number is inches and the final numbers represents "1/8 of an inch".

For example, 6023 equates to 6-2 3/8, 6044 is 6-4 1/2, 5102 is 5-10 1/4 and so on.



Quarterbacks

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Brodie Croye, Alabama
6022 200
* Thin and looked like a regular guy.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
6027 223
* Looked big and solid.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Darrell Hackney, U.A.B.
5113 240
* Built and VERY cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Michael Robinson, Penn St.
6010 218
* Looked lean and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ D.J. Shockley, Georgia
6006 205
* Looked thin and frail.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Charlie Whitehurst, Clemson
6042 216
* Was tall with an athletic build.



Running Backs / Fullbacks

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Joseph Addai, L.S.U.
5111 208
* Looked very solid.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Mike Bell, Arizona
6000 218
* Big and maybe a little soft.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Andre Hall, South Florida
5081 203
* Compact and sturdy.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jerome Harrison, Washington St.
5091 196
* Looked very small and frail.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Cedric Humes, Virginia Tech
6002 227
* Looked big and strong.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Garrett Mills, Tulsa
6006 236
* Has a solid build.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jerious Norwood, Mississippi St.
5113 205
* Was solid and cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Lawrence Vickers, Colorado
5117 239
* Looked big and sturdy.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Terrence Whitehead, Oregon
5096 213
* Sturdy and solid.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ DeAngelo Williams, Memphis
5084 208
* Looked very strong and compact.



Wide Receivers

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Devin Aromashodu, Auburn
6021 202
* Looked a little slight.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jason Avant, Michigan
6003 209
* Looked like he was strong.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Hank Baskett, New Mexico
6024 220
* Big, tall and cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Skyler Green, L.S.U.
5090 193
* Solid despite his height.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Derek Hagan, Arizona St.
6013 203
* Looked strong and very cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Anthony Mix, Auburn
6040 242
* Big, strong and sturdy.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Sinorice Moss, Miami (FL)
5077 183
* Small but solid and strong.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Martin Nance, Miami (OH)
6037 208
* Very tall, cut and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Ben Obomanu, Auburn
6003 202
* Solid and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Maurice Stovall, Notre Dame
6041 216
* Looked very big and lean.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Demetrius Williams, Oregon
6013 188
* Looked strong and cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Travis Wilson, Oklahoma
6011 208
* Very solid and strong.



Tight Ends

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Dominique Byrd, Southern Cal
6023 252
* Looked very soft.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Joe Klopfenstein, Colorado
6052 250
* Big, tall and cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Marcedes Lewis, U.C.L.A.
6057 254
* Tall and very athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ T.J. Williams, North Carolina St.
6021 261
* Solid and strong.



Offensive Linemen

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Will Allen, Texas
6046 318
* Looked a little soft.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Daryn Colledge, Boise St.
6040 295
* Long and very lean.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Ryan Cook, New Mexico
6061 332
* Real soft and flabby.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Mike Degory, Florida
6052 301
* Carries his weight well.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Cody Douglas, Tennessee
6043 317
* Flabby and very soft.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
6054 297
* Tall and lean with long arms.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia
6035 358
* Huge and real soft.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Davin Joseph, Oklahoma
6022 304
* VERY solid.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Taitusi Lutui, Southern Cal
6031 338
* Not nearly as big as expected.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Nick Mangold, Ohio St.
6032 297
* Looked solid and sturdy.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Marcus McNeill, Auburn
n/a n/a
* NOT IN ATTENDANCE

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Ryan O'Callaghan, California
6061 347
* Big but carries it very well.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Marvin Philip, California
6010 307
* Barrell chester.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jonathan Scott, Texas
6061 310
* Very tall and a little flabby.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Mark Setterstrom, Minnesota
6032 313
* Big and slightly flabby.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Charles Spencer, Pittsburgh
6045 338
* Huge and pretty flabby.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Albert Toeaina, Tennessee
6047 338
* Big but carries his weight.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jeremy Trueblood, Boston College
6077 316
* Tall and extremely lean.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Eric Winston, Miami (FL)
6063 302
* Lean and can easily add weight.



Defensive Linemen

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Victor Adeyanju, Indiana
6037 268
* Was huge and looked very strong.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Mark Anderson, Alabama
6037 254
* Looked lean and cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Brodrick Bunkley, Florida St.
6023 300
* Cut and carries his weight VERY well.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Elvis Dumervil, Louisville
5112 258
* Had a beer belly!

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Dusty Dvoracek, Oklahoma
6024 301
* Solid and compact.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Tamba Hali, Penn St.
6022 267
* Looked extremely cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Parys Haralson, Tennessee
6007 250
* Small but cut. LB to me.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Orien Harris, Miami (FL)
6030 302
* Carries his weight well.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College
6052 262
* Tall with very long arms.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Manny Lawson, North Carolina St.
6050 240
* Tall, lean and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jonathan Lewis, Virginia Tech
6007 304
* Has a fireplug build.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jesse Mahelona, Tennessee
6000 311
* Looked a little flabby.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Babatunde Oshinowo, Stanford
6013 302
* Stout, solid and cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Darryl Tapp, Virginia Tech
6012 257
* Looked very strong and cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Gabe Watson, Michigan
6032 341
* Big, strong and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Kyle Williams, L.S.U.
6010 295
* Looked pretty soft.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Kamerion Wimbley, Florida St.
6033 245
* Solid and VERY cut.



Linebackers

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jon Alston, Stanford
6001 218
* Small but built.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Chad Greenway, Iowa
6021 242
* Solid and very athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Spencer Havner, U.C.L.A.
6027 239
* Looked lean and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Abdul Hodge, Iowa
5116 233
* Strong and solid w/barrell chest.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Thomas Howard, U.T.E.P.
6027 234
* Lean and extremely athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Clint Ingram, Oklahoma
6013 240
* Strong, cut and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Brian Iwuh, Colorado
5115 227
* Looked like a LB to me.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland
6002 228
* Strong and very cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Freddie Roach, Alabama
6015 255
* Very thick and solid.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ DeMeco Ryans, Alabama
6011 229
* Looked pretty thin.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Gerris Wilkinson, Georgia Tech
6026 234
* Very solid and built.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Travis Williams, Auburn
5114 217
* Small but strong and cut.



Defensive Backs

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jahmile Addae, West Virginia
5097 201
* Very solid and looked strong.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Will Blackmon, Boston College
5116 200
* Looked strong and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Greg Blue, Georgia
6017 220
* Solid build and very cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Daniel Bullocks, Nebraska
6004 209
* Very big and cut physically.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Cedric Griffin, Texas
6001 192
* Not very physically impressive.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Roman Harper, Alabama
5116 194
* Was not very cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Tye Hill, Clemson
5092 183
* Looked very strong and solid.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Marcus Hudson, North Carolina St.
n/a n/a
* ARRIVED LATE

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Darrell Hunter, Miami (OH)
5116 205
* Looked strong and athletic.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Kelly Jennings, Miami (FL)
5105 171
* Frail but was pretty cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Tim Jennings, Georgia
5077 178
* Small but solid and cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ DeMario Minter, Georgia
5110 189
* Frail and not real cut.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Anwar Phillips, Penn St.
5111 187
* Looked relatively strong.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ David Pittman, Northwestern St.
5107 177
* Slight but athletic build.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Anthony Smith, Syracuse
5114 192
* Cut and pretty solid build.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Pat Watkins, Florida St.
6042 205
* Very tall but kind of thin.



Kickers / Punters

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Stephen Gostkowski, Memphis
6007 214

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Thomas Olmsted, Troy
6033 212

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ John Torp, Colorado
6016 206

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Deric Yaussi, Wyoming
5112 197
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Old 01-23-2006, 02:43 PM   #2
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RE: Senior Bowl news & notes

Few things....

1. I watched last year's Colorado bowl game against UTEP, I think it was the Alamo Bowl, and got to see that Klopfenstein kid. The guy made some of the sickest grabs I've ever seen a TE make. Wouldn't mind picking him up if he's impressive in the combine and still available in the later rounds.

2. Seems to be a lot of fairly good receivers in this draft, even if there isn't one huge playmaker. If Skyler, one of the three guys from Auburn, or a guy like Moss was there in a later round, I think we would have to consider taking one of them to give Leinart some more targets to throw to. (Also, Skyler and Moss could contribute on returns and are both very good on reverses).

3. Tons of linebacking depth here. Still think we go QB with #2, then take LB with #34. I think that would help our needs the most.

4. Tons of overall defensive talent this year. Think we could grab a very good guy for our secondary or DLine in the 4th or later.

5. I'm very excited for this draft. With a new coach and a new defensive coordinator, I believe that this franchise has a lot of promise.
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Old 01-23-2006, 02:53 PM   #3
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RE: Senior Bowl news & notes

sounds more like a beauty pagent than a real look at talent.

i could careless how someone looks. it only matters how they play.
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RE: Senior Bowl news & notes

I don't think anybody said it was a "real look at talent." It's the first stage of a long process, and you start out at the most basic of examinations, a physical. It is good to hear whether or not some of these guys are cut and built, or flabby and soft.
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The main thing is you get an accurate look at how big the players really are. Colleges seem to add an inch or two and five to ten pounds to players. I remember when Roy Williams was a freshman wr at Texas. Texas listed him at 6'5 210 pounds. When he was finally measured at the combine, he checked in at 6'2. That is just one example of schools inflating a players measurables. Schools also go crazy with forty times. It should be mandatory that everyone work out at the combine.
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Interesting read. Thanks, Milians.



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Klopfenstein is my favorite tight end in this draft. I'm impressed TheDeuce... I'm surprised anyone even knew who the guy was. I was extremely impressed after watching him play all last year and I've been a fan of his ever since. I definately would not mind drafting him in the later rounds of the draft to back up Hilton. The guy has some nice hands and most importantly, he's a good blocker.
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Can you send me some information on the guy? I don't think I have any Colorado games except for the Texas-Colorado, and I'm afraid I might have already deleted it
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Please forget those games... Colorado got mauled twice and Klop didn't do much if anything in those games. His best games were last year... he regressed this season. But from what I've seen of him, I think he's a good add. I don't really have any numbers on the guy... pretty much gotta wait until the combine.
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QB
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
6027 223
* Looked big and solid.
RB
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Joseph Addai, L.S.U.
5111 208
* Looked very solid.
WR
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Hank Baskett, New Mexico
6024 220
* Big, tall and cut.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Martin Nance, Miami (OH)
6037 208
* Very tall, cut and athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Maurice Stovall, Notre Dame
6041 216
* Looked very big and lean.
OL
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
6054 297
* Tall and lean with long arms.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia
6035 358
* Huge and real soft.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Jonathan Scott, Texas
6061 310
* Very tall and a little flabby.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Eric Winston, Miami (FL)
6063 302
* Lean and can easily add weight.
DL
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Brodrick Bunkley, Florida St.
6023 300
* Cut and carries his weight VERY well.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Dusty Dvoracek, Oklahoma
6024 301
* Solid and compact.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Tamba Hali, Penn St.
6022 267
* Looked extremely cut.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Orien Harris, Miami (FL)
6030 302
* Carries his weight well.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Gabe Watson, Michigan
6032 341
* Big, strong and athletic.
LB
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Chad Greenway, Iowa
6021 242
* Solid and very athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Spencer Havner, U.C.L.A.
6027 239
* Looked lean and athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Thomas Howard, U.T.E.P.
6027 234
* Lean and extremely athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland
6002 228
* Strong and very cut.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Freddie Roach, Alabama
6015 255
* Very thick and solid.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ DeMeco Ryans, Alabama
6011 229
* Looked pretty thin.
DB
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Will Blackmon, Boston College
5116 200
* Looked strong and athletic.
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Daniel Bullocks, Nebraska
6004 209
* Very big and cut physically.

I would love to get a few of these guys, especially after drafting "The HawK". Just for your Deuce, now your turn to go off.

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