Go Back   New Orleans Saints - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints
Shop Horizontal

anyone seen this....

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; It looked legal to me. He lead with his shoulder and there was incidental helmet to helmet contact. Not all helmet to helmet contact is illegal. If it were they'd never finish a game because there are multiple helmet to ...

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-29-2007, 03:40 PM   #21
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Williamsburg, VA (aka Southern Canada)
Posts: 1,689
It looked legal to me. He lead with his shoulder and there was incidental helmet to helmet contact. Not all helmet to helmet contact is illegal. If it were they'd never finish a game because there are multiple helmet to helmet contacts on EVERY play.

The fact is that this was another of those penalties that were thrown because of what the refs thought they saw rather than what actually happened. The replay clearly shows shoulder first contact. Otherwise, the WR had both feet on the ground so you can't say he was defenseless. If it had been the Saints rather than the Patriots that was on offense the flag would likely have been picked up and the ball ruled fumbled.
ScottyRo is offline  
Latest Blogs
The ArtiChoke Last Blog: 09-18-2014 By: Barry from MS


How to really handle Ray Rice and AP Last Blog: 09-17-2014 By: neugey


The Lost Art of the Trade Last Blog: 08-30-2014 By: jeanpierre


Old 05-29-2007, 03:49 PM   #22
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hollywood, CA
Posts: 6,415
Blog Entries: 5
AGAIN... the penalty charged is "UNECCASARY ROUGHNESS, A BLOW TO THE HEAD" It doesn't have to be helmet to helmet. Its clearly a blow to the head. -15 yards penalty!!! Is anyone watching the same footage and listening to it???

You don't have to get fined by in order for the hit to be legal or not... you don't get fined for being offsides.
Euphoria is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 03:54 PM   #23
500th Post
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 878
Blog Entries: 1
offsides is also not an ILLEGAL HIT! The argument is done. Watch the footage and enjoy
mighty12 is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 03:59 PM   #24
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hollywood, CA
Posts: 6,415
Blog Entries: 5
I will not give your the privlege of ending a discussion. The penalty was enforced and never retracted by Officials. Personal Foul for uneccesaray roughness by blow to the head, is not good football. Lack of class to celebrate hits that are illegal. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HELMET TO HELMET.
Euphoria is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 04:07 PM   #25
500th Post
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 878
Blog Entries: 1
And how many holding penalties leave you ripping your hair out because the refs got it wrong, or a 5 yard facemask grab that is called 15 when it was clearly an innocent slight of hand. REFS ARE WRONG
mighty12 is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 04:27 PM   #26
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hollywood, CA
Posts: 6,415
Blog Entries: 5
but they didn't make a statement nor the announcers said it was a bad call... the announcers were in support of the call, so now what?
Euphoria is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 06:36 PM   #27
500th Post
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 878
Blog Entries: 1
I really can't see why you are getting so defensive about this. If all you want is for someone to say "You're right, everyone who disagrees with you is wrong." Then just say so, and I am sure someone will oblige. As for me I would agree more with the NFL officials who looked over the hit for a week and deemed it a nonmalicious hit, and I would also tend to lean towards a guy playing for the OTHER team who agrees that it was NOT an illegal hit, but that is just me. I am known for leaning towards the side of truth and reason.
mighty12 is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 07:12 PM   #28
DARE TO ENTER
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La.
Posts: 1,154
Man please, if he did that last year in the BLACK & GOLD against Chicago we would have praised him. So the only thing I can say is thank you, after a few games last year you can't argue that we need a lil in your face, smash mouth, physical defense, I'm all for it. Way to go K.K.
blacksaint is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 09:52 PM   #29
"Real Talk"
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 148
well done

Well Done KK!! I don't like to see any player get hurt. But I LOVE to see big hits. He did go head to head but it wasn't his intent. Caldwell did end up ok...so all is good.

But I hope KK keep drilling boys like this...WELL DONE!!
cadilacin is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 10:08 PM   #30
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 3,780
Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
I will not give your the privlege of ending a discussion. The penalty was enforced and never retracted by Officials. Personal Foul for uneccesaray roughness by blow to the head, is not good football. Lack of class to celebrate hits that are illegal. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HELMET TO HELMET.
Exactly.

End result------15 yards and a first down.

Please do no not respond to this post that it was not illegal , or not a blow to the head.

IT WAS.

and so what: KK is not known as a dirty player, it was a one time incident, and he wasn't playing for the Saints at the time.
Last year he also had 8 tackles and a pick against us- no argument about that.

Last edited by ScottF; 05-29-2007 at 10:10 PM..
ScottF is online now  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 AM.


Copyright 1997 - 2013 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts