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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by mighty12 Uh-Oh Adrian Peterson just fumbled the ball and it led to 7 points, I guess the Vikings need to just get rid of him. They will never win the Super Bowl with a running like that. ...

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Old 10-05-2009, 10:54 PM   #51
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Uh-Oh Adrian Peterson just fumbled the ball and it led to 7 points, I guess the Vikings need to just get rid of him. They will never win the Super Bowl with a running like that.
Drew Brees has thrown interceptions before. We should have kept Aaron Brooks.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:31 PM   #52
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man i had tooo much 2 drink, during the game. didn't see it, hell i had to get online first thing this morning to see what the score was.
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Stats have everything to do with it!!!

The comparison is what the players contribute to a win. You don't get rid of Payton Manning cause he threw an INT. Give me a break! Its what a player contributes to a teams success. Right now Reggie is in the NEGATIVE. More fumbles and stupid mistakes for his draft pick and money he is making. Brees has a couple of INTS this season do we cut him uhm duh no. His contributions far out weight the INT's.

If you have a Bush jersey at the end of the season I'll offer you 2 bucks for it so I can use it to wash my car with or if it keeps going my butt with, lol.

Hey I want to love the guy and I will cheer my butt off for the guy if he earns it. Fact is he is earning what he is getting from us and he is playing like crap and deserves crap.
Since I work with statistics as a daily part of my job, I can tell you one thing about them with complete confidence. There are only statistics for what you measure. Makes sense, right?

When someone starts measuring the impact Bush has on a defense, just because he's on the field and regardless if he gets the ball, I'll think it might be possible to lean on stats as my only means of evaluating his contribution.

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this is a prime example of someone completely missing the point

reggie fumbles but doesnt lead the league in rushing and isnt supposed to be the best running back of all time by the end of his career.....some of these things are done and said about adrian peterson
It is not an equal comparison. It is also a typical example of the absolute garbage that comes out of the sensationalized news coverage of modern athletic events. Peterson to be one of the greatest of all time, eh? He's Walter Payton, Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, eh? I'm not aiming this at Canton, because he's just quoting a sports media culture that lacks any semblance of credibility.

One thing is a fact. Peterson has a bad fumbling problem and the national media IS pointing it out.

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Since I work with statistics as a daily part of my job, I can tell you one thing about them with complete confidence. There are only statistics for what you measure. Makes sense, right?

When someone starts measuring the impact Bush has on a defense, just because he's on the field and regardless if he gets the ball, I'll think it might be possible to lean on stats as my only means of evaluating his contribution.



It is not an equal comparison. It is also a typical example of the absolute garbage that comes out of the sensationalized news coverage of modern athletic events. Peterson to be one of the greatest of all time, eh? He's Walter Payton, Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, eh? I'm not aiming this at Canton, because he's just quoting a sports media culture that lacks any semblance of credibility.

One thing is a fact. Peterson has a bad fumbling problem and the national media IS pointing it out.
you will never hear me say he is better than guys like walter payton and barry sanders.....jim brown was before his time and while i would immediately rank him in the top 3 ever, i just think it had a lot to do with him being before his time

gale sayers isnt in the same sentence as walter payton, barry sanders and jim brown even tho he is a hall of famer as well

walter payton is the epitome of what a running back should be....he was quick on his feet....he was strong and strong willed....he was quiet to the media but a great influence to kids and a great volunteer in the community

emmit smith has the rushing record....but walter payton still has the title as best running back ever IMO

like you said....i was just regurgitating the media but the comparison is still nonsense

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Uh-Oh Adrian Peterson just fumbled the ball and it led to 7 points, I guess the Vikings need to just get rid of him. They will never win the Super Bowl with a running like that.
Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
this is a prime example of someone completely missing the point

reggie fumbles but doesnt lead the league in rushing and isnt supposed to be the best running back of all time by the end of his career.....some of these things are done and said about adrian peterson

this is the same argument for matt forte and pierre thomas.....you are using 1 thing to say that reggie and adrian peterson are the same player.....they are not and you know that the more talented player will always get the benefit of the doubt
Mighty12 wqas being sarcastic.
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Common people. We are 4 and 0. Who cares if Reggie fumbled the ball, so di Adrian Peterson against Green Bay. These things happen. Its not like its developed into a pattern. Hes more of an asset to this team than a liability. As soon as defenses start to think they have him contained he breaks free for either a touchdown or a long gain. Lets hope we continue to carry our momentum over to the Giants game. Good thing its at home. GEAUX SAINTS!!!!
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gale sayers isnt in the same sentence as walter payton, barry sanders and jim brown even tho he is a hall of famer as well
I agree with everything you said, especially about Sweetness being the absolute greatest running back of all time. However, this statement struck me as odd.

I know Sayers' career was short because of injury, but the guy was simply amazing. Many players who played against him (and other names on our short list) still regard Sayers as the greatest half back that ever played the game. He scored 22 TD in his rookie season, about 1 TD for every 10 touches. He scored 6 TDs (4 rushing, 1 receiving, and 1 punt return) in one game against the 49ers, and in that game the field was a sloshy mud-bowl. Sayers still leads the league for TDs among kickoff returners all time (with at least four TDs). He only had 91 returns, and 6 were TDs. To put it in a modern perspective, Devin Hester has 6 TDs over 94 returns - but Sayers return average is 6 yards per return better and he has 600 more return yards than Hester with 3 fewer total returns!

Finally, Sayers made the HoF with only five years in the NFL. That's virtually unheard of. While Payton still is the ultimate in RB perfection in every facet of the game on and off the field, I do not think there's any overstatement to put Sayers' name in the same sentence with him.

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I agree with everything you said, especially about Sweetness being the absolute greatest running back of all time. However, this statement struck me as odd.

I know Sayers' career was short because of injury, but the guy was simply amazing. Many players who played against him (and other names on our short list) still regard Sayers as the greatest half back that ever played the game. He scored 22 TD in his rookie season, about 1 TD for every 10 touches. He scored 6 TDs (4 rushing, 1 receiving, and 1 punt return) in one game against the 49ers, and in that game the field was a sloshy mud-bowl. Sayers still leads the league for TDs among kickoff returners all time (with at least four TDs). He only had 91 returns, and 6 were TDs. To put it in a modern perspective, Devin Hester has 6 TDs over 94 returns - but Sayers return average is 6 yards per return better and he has 600 more return yards than Hester with 3 fewer total returns!

Finally, Sayers made the HoF with only five years in the NFL. That's virtually unheard of. While Payton still is the ultimate in RB perfection in every facet of the game on and off the field, I do not think there's any overstatement to put Sayers' name in the same sentence with him.

Just my opinion, of course.

All I am saying is, if you want to have an opinion- can you first provide the mean, variance and standard deviation. Thanks!
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I would apply the empirical against the perceptive, and esoterically contrast the rhetorical consideration, guarding against unrelated variances.

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I would apply the empirical against the perceptive, and esoterically apply the rhetorical consideration, guarding against unrelated variances.
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