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Camp Confidential Part Deux - in GW we trust
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METAIRIE, La. -- As the New Orleans Saints finished their first camp practice Friday morning, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, a man known for holding back nothing on or off the field, unloaded. He wanted to get something off his chest. Heck, out of his body, out of his mouth and out into the open.
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Without ever really being asked anything that would prompt the issue, Williams started talking about why the Saints can repeat as Super Bowl champions. Heís tired of hearing the reasons they canít and the repeated reminders that the follow-up season hasnít been good to many Super Bowl teams in recent history.
ďI keep on hearing you guys talk about this Super Bowl hangover and itís starting to chafe me a little bit,íí Williams said. ďIt really is and Iím being real honest. The reason being is, if you could see behind the scenes of our offseason program from April 19 and to see every single practice weíve had, I donít have any qualms about the way our defense is because all they did was show up with more hunger, more fire, wanted me to be a bigger jerk and get on their (butt) more. They begged for me to get on their (butt) more. So far, Iíve seen nothing that would indicate that we canít make another run at this.íí
Williams may be one of the organizationís more vocal figures, but you quickly get the feeling heís not alone on this idea. Sure, the Saints spent a good portion of the offseason celebrating the first Super Bowl title in franchise history. Sure, recent history is stacked against them. No team has repeated since the 2004 Patriots.
Confidence -- some even have suggested arrogance -- was a big part of the reason the Saints won the Super Bowl last season. That hasnít changed. Unlike a lot of recent Super Bowl teams, the Saints really didnít lose much in free agency and they didnít have their coaching staff picked apart. There really hasnít been much turnover of faces or attitude.
ďThere was a really good locker room here before I got here,íí Williams said. ďThereís a better locker room now. The guys that we brought in this year, they fit into that locker room because Jon Vilma and Drew Brees arenít going to let the wrong kind of people be in that locker room. Theyíre just not going to do that.íí
THREE HOT ISSUES
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A healthy Jabari Greer could help the defense be more consistent.
1. Can a defense that was opportunistic but far from dominant become more consistent? Sure, there is some bravado that comes with Williams. Thatís part of his nature and itís part of what makes him a good coach. But what heís saying isnít just bluster.
The Saints really should be much better on defense this season. All they really lost was linebacker Scott Fujita and defensive end Charles Grant. They showed Grant the door and probably upgraded the position by signing veterans Alex Brown and Jimmy Wilkerson. Theyíll line up on the other side from Will Smith. Brown and Wilkerson arenít dominant pass-rushers, but theyíre consistent in that area and play the run very well. Fujita was a key contributor, but the Saints believe they have a group of promising linebackers (Troy Evans, Jo-Lonn Dunbar and Stanley Arnoux) and believe one of them will rise up.
Plug in a healthy Sedrick Ellis in the middle of the defensive line and the Saints should have a solid front seven. But the defensive backfield is where the Saints really could be outstanding. Theyíve assembled one of the best collections of secondary talent in the league. Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter might be the best cornerbacks no one outside of New Orleans has heard of. When healthy, they both can be shut-down guys. Both were banged up last season, and thatís one of the reasons the Saints drafted cornerback Patrick Robinson. That move also has allowed them to move last yearís first-round pick, Malcolm Jenkins, to free safety, where he might get the chance to beat out Darren Sharper. If you can put Sharper, a possible future Hall of Famer on the bench, thatís a pretty big statement. People talk about New Orleansí offense being explosive, but the defense has a chance to be every bit as dynamic.
2. Can the offense live up to last yearís standards? Brees remains the quarterback and, as long as thatís the case, this offense is going to be great. Brees clearly is in his prime and his pairing with head coach/offensive genius Sean Payton makes magic possible on every play.
This is an offense that can hit you from every angle -- Brees throwing short or long, Pierre Thomas running inside and Reggie Bush outside and an offensive line filled with Pro Bowlers. Keep in mind that the Saints had some injuries at the skill positions last year, but they still were phenomenal on offense. If they can keep Bush, Thomas, Marques Colston, Heath Evans and Jeremy Shockey healthy, last yearís production could be eclipsed.
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Jahri Evans is part of a dominant offensive line that makes up for any weakness at left tackle.
3. Is left tackle really that important? The Saints used to have a Pro Bowl left tackle. His name was Jammal Brown and they traded him to Washington in the offseason. That happened after Brown missed all last season with an injury and the Saints got by with Jermon Bushrod quite nicely.
The Saints arenít touting Bushrod as a franchise left tackle, although heís the favorite to be the starter. They also drafted Charles Brown, and Zach Strief, who filled in when Bushrod slumped a bit last season, also is in the mix. The Saints gave Bushrod plenty of help last season and theyíre prepared to do it again for him -- or for Brown or Streif. But the lesson that came out of last year is, in this offense, itís not a necessity to have a dominant left tackle.
But thatís partly because the Saints have the leagueís best guard tandem (Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks), a Pro Bowl right tackle (Jonathan Stinchcomb) and an excellent center (Jonathan Goodwin). Throw anyone out there at left tackle and the rest of the line and Brees will make him look good.
Jimmy Graham. The Saints took what seemed like a bit of a leap when they drafted the tight end in the third round. He played basketball at the University of Miami before deciding to switch to football in his final year. The conventional wisdom was that Graham would be a bit of a project and would take a year or two to really have an impact. But there already is a buzz among the coaching staff and other offensive players about Graham. Everyone knew he had great athletic ability coming in, but heís picked up things faster than anyone expected and he got some first-team work with Brees in June workouts. He might play a bigger role faster than anyone expected.
Clint Ingram. When the Saints signed Ingram, a lot of fans instantly thought he would be the automatic replacement for Fujita. Ingram had been a starter in Jacksonville, so the logic was solid. But Ingram was injured when the Saints signed him and he still hasnít been on the practice field, except while riding a stationary bike. That has allowed Troy Evans, Dunbar and Arnoux time to make a good impression. Unless Ingram gets healthy very soon and makes a huge impression on the field, he might not even get a roster spot.
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Darren Sharper wore down toward the end of last season and had offseason microfracture surgery.
I know this might sound like blasphemy to Saints fans because Sharper is very popular and had a huge impact last year. But the fact is heís 34 and coming off micro-fracture knee surgery. Iíve suggested before I think thereís a good chance Jenkins takes his place in the starting lineup. But Iíll take it one step further here and say -- Iím not promising this will happen -- I can see a scenario where Sharper doesnít even stay on the active roster. The Saints are high on Jenkins. They also like Usama Young and are hopeful about Chip Vaughn, who missed his rookie year with an injury. Ideally, the Saints would like to keep Sharper around for his leadership. But if his knee doesnít come along, he could spend part of the season on the physically-unable-to-perform list, the injured-reserve list or maybe even be released or retired. Even with all his credentials, Sharper canít contribute if his knee isnít right. The Saints have a lot of other safeties with young legs.
The Saints used a three-headed backfield with Bush, Thomas and Mike Bell last season. Bell is gone, but the playing time division should be pretty similar this year. Just plug Lynell Hamilton into Bellís place. The Saints wouldnít have let Bell go if they didnít think Hamilton was ready. I donít want to tease you and say this is the year Bush shows he can run between the tackles. But remember how well he ran in the playoffs and how he was more physical than at any time in his career? That was because he was completely healthy. That seems to still be the case, so donít be surprised if you see Bushís numbers go up a bit. This guy can do a little bit of everything.
Shockeyís always been an easy target and thereís no doubt heís brought some of that on himself. But he appears to be in very good physical shape. Shockey hasnít really been a distraction in New Orleans like many thought he was when he was with the Giants. Heís just been banged up for much of his time with the Saints. Maybe Ė- and Iím just saying maybe -- Shockey might have matured and might be taking better care of himself in an effort to stay on the field.
It really didnít get much attention, but the best move the Saints made in the offseason might have been signing Patrick Ramsey to serve as Breesí backup. Veteran Mark Brunell was a good fit in that role for a couple of years, but the Saints needed to get a little younger. The Saints hope and pray nothing ever happens to Brees. But, if he were to miss some time, the New Orleans offense might not suddenly fall apart. Ramseyís a guy who has bounced around the league. He got messed up by Steve Spurrier early in his career in Washington, but he still has some talent. This is a quarterback-friendly offense with all sorts of weapons and Ramsey could win games for the Saints -- if that ever becomes necessary.
For a couple years, special teams were a bit of a question. That has changed. Kicker Garrett Hartley and punter Thomas Morstead were heroes in the Super Bowl. Theyíre still young and should only continue to get better.
Itís very early in camp, but one player who has intrigued the coaching staff is defensive end Junior Galette. Heís an undrafted rookie and very undersized at 258 pounds. But this guy is showing great speed and thereís a chance he could land a job as a pass-rush specialist. Yeah, Bobby McCray also is supposed to fit that description. But McCray had 1.5 sacks last season and actually was cut because of a high salary before he basically begged his way back (at a reduced salary). If the Saints cut McCray once, thereís no reason why they couldnít do it again.
What's interesting is he likes Junior Galette so much, McCray may get re-cut. Also stating if Sharper's knees don't get healthy quick enough, even he may miss the cut.
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Re: Camp Confidential Part Deux - in GW we trust
Accurate and to the point. Good read.
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