Vilma's past

TheOak · 05-04-2012, 04:44 AM

Look.. I love this cat as much as the next guy but fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Where there is smoke twice?

This is older news BUT when you read it in today's light it takes on a different tone doesn't it?

$2,250 in bounties. Shapiro said the bounties were: $1,000 for a hit and personal foul penalty by Vilma on Florida State quarterback Chris Rix during Miami’s 28-27 win on Oct. 12, 2002; $250 for a sack in a 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003; and $1,000 for a hit on Rix in a 16-14 win over Florida State on Jan. 1, 2004.
Allegations: Jonathan Vilma - Investigations - Yahoo! Sports

Remember when Vilma was tied to bounties at Miami? - NFL.com

Tobias-Reiper · 05-04-2012, 06:44 AM

... maybe you should also post a couple links to information about this Nevin Shapiro, where is he now, why is he there, and why he would claim he gave money away like he did.

TheOak · 05-04-2012, 06:58 AM

I could care less about Shapiro. If Vilma's appeal goes to trial this WILL be brought up as a character reference.

I suppose its just purely random coincidence. :-/

Tobias-Reiper · 05-04-2012, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I could care less about Shapiro. If Vilma's appeal goes to trial this WILL be brought up as a character reference.

I suppose its just purely random coincidence. :-/

You should care about Nevin Shapiro, because Nevin Shapiro was convicted and is in jail for running a ponzi scheme (which makes him a liar to begin with) which defrauded millions of dlrs from unsuspecting investors. When you are convicted of such a crime, the first thing the Feds go after is your assets, including cash, obviously. Claiming you "gave it all away" is a means to hide cash you have stashed in some remote Caribbean island.

GOULA SAINT · 05-04-2012, 06:59 AM

This is ridiculous football players are different they are mean, arrogant people and this is what they do. Hell watch Friday night lights they celebrated when they hurt boobie Myles it goes on in every level and has for a long Time.

TheOak · 05-04-2012, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by GOULA SAINT

This is ridiculous football players are different they are mean, arrogant people and this is what they do. Hell watch Friday night lights they celebrated when they hurt boobie Myles it goes on in every level and has for a long Time.

I disagree. I do not need to watch a movie to know how football players are on the field. Ive played the game.

Mean? Arrogant? Different?

Brees, mean or arrogant? Garrett Hartley mean, arrogant?

Blanket statements like that are dangerous. You form your opinions from movies?

I suppose Barney is really a purple dinosaur covered in felt.

SaintGup · 05-04-2012, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I suppose Barney is really a purple dinosaur covered in felt.

Ha. That's the stupidest thing I've heard... Everyone knows it's Magenta!

GOULA SAINT · 05-04-2012, 10:12 AM

You know if you played football you'd know skill sets have different personalities linebackers are traditionally bad assess all the way around the fact that you compared a QB and a kicker to a MLB tells me you didn't play the game long I screwed up and made the assumption that could be figured out. The movie reference was just to tie in it happens in all levels if a junior in high school knocks someone out he gets
Stickers for his helmet. So grow a pair realize this sport is violent and quit watching Barney.

TheOak · 05-04-2012, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by GOULA SAINT

You know if you played football you'd know skill sets have different personalities linebackers are traditionally bad assess all the way around the fact that you compared a QB and a kicker to a MLB tells me you didn't play the game long I screwed up and made the assumption that could be figured out. The movie reference was just to tie in it happens in all levels if a junior in high school knocks someone out he gets
Stickers for his helmet. So grow a pair realize this sport is violent and quit watching Barney.

9 years was long enough. Long enough to know that you do not typecast a personality by position.

People have different personalities. Skill is not a reflection of personality, it is a reflection of physical ability, and prowess.

You do realize that some players play both QB and Linebacker don't you?

I suppose you would call Junior Seau mean and arrogant lol.

SapperSaint · 05-04-2012, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

You do realize that some players play both QB and Linebacker don't you?

I have a couple of comments on this.

1. The head coach won't be head coaching long.

2. I only see that happening in Class 1A-2A High School Football.

3. A QB playing MLB is just plain wrong and I don't see the kid making it out of high school without serious injury.

4. If you are talking about yourself 626; hat's off to you brother! That's tough.

05-04-2012, 04:44 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Vilma's past Look.. I love this cat as much as the next guy but fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Where there is smoke twice? This is older news BUT when you read it in today's light it takes on a different tone doesn't it? $2,250 in bounties. Shapiro said the bounties were: $1,000 for a hit and personal foul penalty by Vilma on Florida State quarterback Chris Rix during Miami’s 28-27 win on Oct. 12, 2002; $250 for a sack in a 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003; and $1,000 for a hit on Rix in a 16-14 win over Florida State on Jan. 1, 2004. Allegations: Jonathan Vilma - Investigations - Yahoo! Sports Remember when Vilma was tied to bounties at Miami? - NFL.com TheDeuce and BGWhoDat like this.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

05-04-2012, 07:29 AM	#4
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by x626xBlack I could care less about Shapiro. If Vilma's appeal goes to trial this WILL be brought up as a character reference. I suppose its just purely random coincidence. :-/ You should care about Nevin Shapiro, because Nevin Shapiro was convicted and is in jail for running a ponzi scheme (which makes him a liar to begin with) which defrauded millions of dlrs from unsuspecting investors. When you are convicted of such a crime, the first thing the Feds go after is your assets, including cash, obviously. Claiming you "gave it all away" is a means to hide cash you have stashed in some remote Caribbean island.

05-04-2012, 06:59 AM	#5
GOULA SAINT Good Times Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87	This is ridiculous football players are different they are mean, arrogant people and this is what they do. Hell watch Friday night lights they celebrated when they hurt boobie Myles it goes on in every level and has for a long Time.
GOULA SAINT Good Times Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87

05-04-2012, 07:14 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Originally Posted by GOULA SAINT This is ridiculous football players are different they are mean, arrogant people and this is what they do. Hell watch Friday night lights they celebrated when they hurt boobie Myles it goes on in every level and has for a long Time. I disagree. I do not need to watch a movie to know how football players are on the field. Ive played the game. Mean? Arrogant? Different? Brees, mean or arrogant? Garrett Hartley mean, arrogant? Blanket statements like that are dangerous. You form your opinions from movies? I suppose Barney is really a purple dinosaur covered in felt. Euphoria and RockyMountainSaint like this.

05-04-2012, 07:33 AM	#7
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Originally Posted by x626xBlack I suppose Barney is really a purple dinosaur covered in felt. Ha. That's the stupidest thing I've heard... Everyone knows it's Magenta! saintfan and sharke like this.

05-04-2012, 06:44 AM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	... maybe you should also post a couple links to information about this Nevin Shapiro, where is he now, why is he there, and why he would claim he gave money away like he did.

05-04-2012, 06:58 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	I could care less about Shapiro. If Vilma's appeal goes to trial this WILL be brought up as a character reference. I suppose its just purely random coincidence. :-/

05-04-2012, 10:12 AM	#8
GOULA SAINT Good Times Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87	You know if you played football you'd know skill sets have different personalities linebackers are traditionally bad assess all the way around the fact that you compared a QB and a kicker to a MLB tells me you didn't play the game long I screwed up and made the assumption that could be figured out. The movie reference was just to tie in it happens in all levels if a junior in high school knocks someone out he gets Stickers for his helmet. So grow a pair realize this sport is violent and quit watching Barney.
GOULA SAINT Good Times Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87

05-04-2012, 10:43 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Originally Posted by GOULA SAINT You know if you played football you'd know skill sets have different personalities linebackers are traditionally bad assess all the way around the fact that you compared a QB and a kicker to a MLB tells me you didn't play the game long I screwed up and made the assumption that could be figured out. The movie reference was just to tie in it happens in all levels if a junior in high school knocks someone out he gets Stickers for his helmet. So grow a pair realize this sport is violent and quit watching Barney. 9 years was long enough. Long enough to know that you do not typecast a personality by position. People have different personalities. Skill is not a reflection of personality, it is a reflection of physical ability, and prowess. You do realize that some players play both QB and Linebacker don't you? I suppose you would call Junior Seau mean and arrogant lol.

05-04-2012, 10:54 AM	#10
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by x626xBlack You do realize that some players play both QB and Linebacker don't you? I have a couple of comments on this. 1. The head coach won't be head coaching long. 2. I only see that happening in Class 1A-2A High School Football. 3. A QB playing MLB is just plain wrong and I don't see the kid making it out of high school without serious injury. 4. If you are talking about yourself 626; hat's off to you brother! That's tough.

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