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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; NEW ORLEANS (WAFB) - Pro Football Talk reports today that according to a source close to the situation, Jonathan Vilma was definitely offered an eight game reduction to his suspension by the NFL. According to the report it is still ...

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Old 08-23-2012, 02:14 PM   #1
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Report: Vilma was "definitely" offered eight game suspension by NFL

NEW ORLEANS (WAFB) - Pro Football Talk reports today that according to a source close to the situation, Jonathan Vilma was definitely offered an eight game reduction to his suspension by the NFL.
According to the report it is still not clear whether the NFL made a formal offer or implied that if Vilma would accept an eight-game reduction the NFL would grant it to him. Regardless, PFT's source reportedly says Vilma could have had the reduction if he had wanted it. Vilma apparently declined the offer.
Earlier this month multiple reports had a settlement near between Jonathan Vilma and the NFL that would reduce the suspension of the Saints linebacker.
In a statement released later that day the NFL denied that Vilma was offered a settlement deal.
"The report about a settlement offer by the league to Jonathan Vilma is completely inaccurate. No such settlement offer has been made. We will continue to respect the court proceedings on this matter and have no further comment at this time," league spokesman Greg Aiello said.
Attorneys for Vilma, Anthony Hargrove, Scott Fujita and Will Smith have argued Goodell showed improper bias with comments he made before announcing player discipline.
A settlement between Vilma and the NFL could also have lead to the reductions in the suspensions for Hargrove (eight games), Smith (four games) and Fujita (three games).
Last week the NFL provided a federal judge with what it says is evidence Goodell did not improperly pre-judge players in the bounty investigation.
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Forgotten by many, the bounty cases are hardly gone.
As the judge presiding over the litigation apparently waits for the August 30 appeal of a key grievance ruling and presumably hopes the parties will find a way to work out their differences on their own, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that the NFL “definitely” offered an eight-game reduction in Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma’s fine, at some point during the discussions.
Earlier this month, a report emerged that the league had offered to cut Vilma’s one-year suspension in half. The NFL denied that any such offer had been made.
Our source, who is in position to know, says it happened. It’s still not clear whether it was a formal offer or an implied — but nonetheless clear — indication that if Vilma would accept an eight-game reduction an eight-game reduction definitely would be available. Regardless, the source says Vilma could have had it, if he had wanted it.
Vilma apparently didn’t want it.
It’s not known whether there’s a chance of getting the case resolved if the league would offer to cut Vilma’s ban by more than eight game. (The other three players’ suspensions would have to be resolved, too.) It’s believed, however, that the NFL’s lawyers hope to insulate Commissioner Roger Goodell from ever having to testify. If that belief is accurate, and if Judge Helen G. Berrigan decides to convene a full-blown evidentiary hearing to resolve the conflicts in the sworn statements of Goodell, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, and Browns linebacker Scott Fujita on the question of whether Goodell was ready to discipline players when he disciplined non-players on March 21, the NFL could make an aggressive run at settling the entire case.


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Old 08-23-2012, 02:16 PM   #2
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Re: Report: Vilma was "definitely" offered eight game suspension by NFL

Vilma declined the offer even it was true so it makes no difference, he either wants no game suspension or nothing
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Re: Report: Vilma was "definitely" offered eight game suspension by NFL

League denies again.
League again denies that it made Vilma an offer | ProFootballTalk

I find this statement in the OP VERY compelling:
It’s not known whether there’s a chance of getting the case resolved if the league would offer to cut Vilma’s ban by more than eight game. (The other three players’ suspensions would have to be resolved, too.) It’s believed, however, that the NFL’s lawyers hope to insulate Commissioner Roger Goodell from ever having to testify. If that belief is accurate, and if Judge Helen G. Berrigan decides to convene a full-blown evidentiary hearing to resolve the conflicts in the sworn statements of Goodell, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, and Browns linebacker Scott Fujita on the question of whether Goodell was ready to discipline players when he disciplined non-players on March 21, the NFL could make an aggressive run at settling the entire case.

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Good for Vilma, make Goodell testify and see what happens with "all the proof" he has.
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Yep at this point Vilma's just gotta ride this thing out and see where it takes him

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Godhell is a God **** liar!!!
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I understand Vilma's stance. I certainly can't fault him. But, he's going to lose in court. He should play the eight games and this time next year in our short attention span society, all will be forgotten.
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The fact that the league is actually even considering bringing it down is a message to not just the league, but the public and the media that goodell isn't this all powerful always right judge.

As long as the Saints aren't forever known as "dirty" and people stop asking whether or not the super bowl was "tainted". (It's not by the way, every single team does this so I guess every super bowl is tainted plus we don't even know if it actually happened anyway).
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The fact that the league is actually even considering bringing it down is a message to not just the league, but the public and the media that goodell isn't this all powerful always right judge.
Not if the league denies ever making the offer.

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