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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 I always thought scab meant bottom of the barrell POS back up who should never see the field like Shanle Scab means a person who works when a union is on strike, weakening their bargaining position ...

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Old 09-07-2012, 05:48 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 View Post
I always thought scab meant bottom of the barrell POS back up who should never see the field like Shanle
Scab means a person who works when a union is on strike, weakening their bargaining position by allowing the organization they are on strike against to keep operating.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:56 PM   #22
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I always thought scab meant bottom of the barrell POS back up who should never see the field like Shanle
Quick! Someone tell Sean Payton, Joe Vitt and/or Steve Spagnuolo this. I'm sure they'll be so grateful to know what a huge mistake they've made for the last 7 years.
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:02 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Seer1 View Post
"Defenses do not win Championships"

I'm thinkin' maybe that should read, "One very strong side of the ball wins championships." Lately, it's been offenses, but we've seen some D's win that game as well. I'm not gonna look any further than the Ravens and da Bears for word on that. Hell, da Bears even had the defense playing offense.
The ravens was 12 years ago and the Bears was about 25 years ago.

Defense does NOT win championships, although a crappy one probably eliminates you from going anayway.
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:49 PM   #24
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Nice post, but this part I have to kinda disagree with. Some players today are complete thugs, no doubt. But I think that a lot more of these guys -- probably the majority of them -- DO have extreme sides to their personalities: mean, psychotic, violent, aggressive, even thuggishness. But based on the three or four that I have sorta known, or ones that I've had interactions or run-ins with over the years, and their families (I've known a couple of relatives or family members of Saints players over the years) I think it's more often something that these dudes turn ON and OFF, like a switch. Just one side to them.

There are PLENTY of players who fit that Willie Roaf type -- the huge body, mean as heck when he's out on the field, but who in reality is actually kinda soft and quiet and really thoughtful.

I mean that's like the dream stereotype of the offensive lineman, the huge hulking guy who smashes people on Sundays, breaks bones, but then he loves his weak little kicker and QB like a little brother, and hugs them, the way Nicks picked up Drew in his arms and bear hugged him when he broke the record. The terror of the gridiron who cries and sniffs at the sad parts of a Pixar cartoon movie with his kids. This is a cliche, but it's kind of a real NFL thing too. My impression is that a lot of players, really are like that, in person.

Take someone like Jonathan Vilma -- the man is very bright and super articulate off the field, but he also has a dark side, enjoys poker and high rolling. The man was U of Miami, but don't think for a minute that his business degree from there isn't real. You know he is right there in the huddle with the lawyers, for all this stuff he's doing in court.

Deuce is another one. The man was a raging beast on the field, but talks so quiet in person you can barely hear him. Extremely humble.

Courtney Roby is completely bat**** crazy, insanely violent gunner on special teams, but he's also a deeply religious and spiritual person -- prays in the end zone at almost every game. He was deeply upset when he accidentally clobbered that officiating guy holding the yard marker that one time on a kickoff. Prayed for him, even visited the poor guy in the hospital, felt horrible about it. I don't know what the hell else Courtney Roby could do with his life and his violent skill set, as a profession, being a maniac like he is, but his heart is in the right place.

While we're on misconceptions, I also think that a lot of people tend to think Drew Brees is some kind of hero and angel -- and that's probably NOT ENTIRELY TRUE as well. He doesn't show it much, but I'm sure he has that "locker room side" to him, as well.
I agree with the Brees part. I see him on sound FX and he's normal.

But compared to QBs like Peyton Manning, Cam Newton, etc who are just IN YOUR FACE, he kind of is an angel compared to those guys.

I can't see Brees actually "blaming people" but I can see him getting mad. I've already seen it. It shows he's not naive.
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:51 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
Duly noted and OP corrected, you have personal experience that can not be ignored. And while I agree thats its probably lower than 90%, I will bet it is a lot higher than it was in say... 1978.

How many times do you think Brees looked at Meachem and said... You catch like a bitc4! Really MF-r? It was in your hands!.. LOL

I agree with you... There are no angels in football... The public likes to paint certain players in "savior light".
I agree with the Brees part. I see him on sound FX and he's normal.

But compared to QBs like Peyton Manning, Cam Newton, etc who are just IN YOUR FACE, he kind of is an angel compared to those guys.

I can't see Brees actually "blaming people" but I can see him getting mad(more at himself than at others). I've already seen it. It shows he's not naive.
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:53 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
It seems Danno and I share the same frustrations with what is reality and what is "made for TV".

I thought it would be good to get some things out in the open. Not so much for our regular members but for some of the opponents fans that may stop by to troll or have discussions.

E.G. Falcons fan comes in and states "x".... He can be forwarded to the CSM thread and come talk when he understands we are not a bunch of Dion Sanders want to be's here. We have intelligent discussions about football.

Not to steal something from W&J, but B&G is the board for the 10%rs, and BS will be called out.
Oh crap - tv is not reality?
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Left tackle is the most difficult offensive position to play.
Next time Joe Thomas reads the defense, calls the audible, and completes a 12-yard out for the first down, please post the video here ...
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The indians don't have guns.
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This place we landed on is India, so these people must be Indians!
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