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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Is that the defense looked better. I'll grant you we gave up over 200 yards rushing. I'll grant you we gave up over 400 yards total...again. I'll grant you the Iggles O Line is hot garbage. I'll grant you Vick ...

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Old 11-06-2012, 02:01 PM   #1
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The Fact Of The Matter

Is that the defense looked better.

I'll grant you we gave up over 200 yards rushing.
I'll grant you we gave up over 400 yards total...again.
I'll grant you the Iggles O Line is hot garbage.
I'll grant you Vick is not exactly Drew or Tom or Manning (either one).
I'll grant you it was a home game.
I'll grant you I'm a complete homer with only the occasional nod to reality.

Given all those things, I'm still looking at it like this. As bad as the defense has looked, they at least looked aggressive last night...at times.

If buy in is part of the problem - if the players haven't seen the success and are questioning the system - and who could blame them really, then maybe last night will help them believe.

The fact of the matter is that improvement on defense has to come from somewhere, against somebody. I'll take it. It was either a mirage or something else. And I think a little confidence on the defensive side of the ball might have value.

Take it for what it's worth. We could stink up the joint again come Sunday, but last night, at least through my rose colored glasses, looked like an improvement. Hell it can't get any worse.

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Old 11-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #2
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Re: The Fact Of The Matter

I've been craving for pressure for a very long time and I got to see it yesterday on primetime football. I'm not fooling myself... I'll take what I can get. A little confidence goes a long ways for the players and the fans. When you get to opposing quarterbacks, good things will eventually happen. Hopefully we can build on this.

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Old 11-06-2012, 02:21 PM   #3
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The defense played well againts a hot garbage team. I'm not sure how you can take anything posistive away from that. If they start shutting down teams maybe...
Just for me 1 good game vs a horrible teams doesn't make them good or average...
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:25 PM   #4
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LOl Not being an ass intentionally but thats like saying...
Ill grant you the butter was warm
Ill grant you the knife was red hot
Ill grant you the knife was as sharp as a red hot knife can get (expansion and all)

But it still cut through that butter quickly.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:29 PM   #5
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The defense played well againts a hot garbage team. I'm not sure how you can take anything posistive away from that. If they start shutting down teams maybe...
Just for me 1 good game vs a horrible teams doesn't make them good or average...
So do you consider KC a good team? Point is, we didn't play that good that game. Funny how if the sacks and pressure didn't happen, you would probably be saying the same thing.

The negative nancys are in full swing today! We get our first dominate win and there is just as much *****in as when we are losing. What you want to see is not going to happen this season. The sooner you get your head wrapped around that, the easier it will be to enjoy when we have a decent performance.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:32 PM   #6
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So do you consider KC a good team? Point is, we didn't play that good that game. Funny how if the sacks and pressure didn't happen, you would probably be saying the same thing.

The negative nancys are in full swing today! We get our first dominate win and there is just as much *****in as when we are losing. What you want to see is not going to happen this season. The sooner you get your head wrapped around that, the easier it will be to enjoy when we have a decent performance.
Stop namecalling. And its Mr. Nancy to you
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Stop namecalling. And its Mr. Nancy to you
Well Mr Nancy, you want butter on your popcorn?
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Well Mr Nancy, you want butter on your popcorn?
and jalapenos please... Texas has me spoiled in the theater when I get a tub and it comes with a container of jalapenos.
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Is that the defense looked better.

I'll grant you we gave up over 200 yards rushing.
I'll grant you we gave up over 400 yards total...again.
I'll grant you the Iggles O Line is hot garbage.
I'll grant you Vick is not exactly Drew or Tom or Manning (either one).
I'll grant you it was a home game.
I'll grant you I'm a complete homer with only the occasional nod to reality.

Given all those things, I'm still looking at it like this. As bad as the defense has looked, they at least looked aggressive last night...at times.

If buy in is part of the problem - if the players haven't seen the success and are questioning the system - and who could blame them really, then maybe last night will help them believe.

The fact of the matter is that improvement on defense has to come from somewhere, against somebody. I'll take it. It was either a mirage or something else. And I think a little confidence on the defensive side of the ball might have value.

Take it for what it's worth. We could stink up the joint again come Sunday, but last night, at least through my rose colored glasses, looked like an improvement. Hell it can't get any worse.

Defence finally played a game well enough for us to win. And sure people gonna talk abou eagles O-line this and Vick suck that but it would have been helladamn worse if we didn't sack that bas**** 7 times and pick him off and do those things people should be doing against a bad offence.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:02 PM   #10
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Its all great and good, but if we pressure like that against Atlanta we will get burned by JJ and Rody all day long. We probably will anyway.
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