The Fact Of The Matter

Marlboro Man · 11-06-2012, 08:19 PM

Actually, if this team could just tackle they would be a much better defense.

Rugby Saint II · 11-06-2012, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Actually, if this team could just tackle they would be a much better defense.

Oh, so true!

CharityMike · 11-06-2012, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

And when did I ever say I considered KC a good team?
Jeez its like a crime to be disappointed in these guys... The defense is **** man

I was using that as a reference to your statement of us just beating a lousy team. We had zero defensive success against the lousy Chiefs but we did have success against the Eagles. Both teams are lousy. Do you not see how we did better last night??

I know the defense is sh!t. Go look at any of my posts, I never once said everything is all good after last night. I am meerly living in the moment and appreciating our team playing a good game, which seems to be escaping some people who can't get past the suckiness of our D. Enjoy the little things because we are stuck with this D for the rest of the year, good or bad. Why be pissy when we suck and when we do good?

Crusader · 11-07-2012, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Actually, if this team could just tackle they would be a much better defense.

Yeah if atleast the second or third guy would make the tackle...

FinSaint · 11-07-2012, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Actually, if this team could just tackle they would be a much better defense.

The same goes for all the other 31 defenses in the league... it's the fundamentals that really matter and what everything else is built on.

SaintnDE · 11-07-2012, 06:54 AM

i had been thinking over the last 4 or so games that a bit of mixture of spags new scheme and some of the old pin-your-ears back would maybe get them moving.

i saw that monday night. i think our guys need that initial surge and a nice play to get their confidnece up. after that, they played a HELL of a lot better. not great, but good. you could feel they were jazzed up after getting to the QB. let them ride that...if it gives them confidence, that's a good thing.

i think they need to continue that approach. but after they spend 10hrs a day for 3 days hitting the tackling dummies. that was just embarrasing. lynch run anybody?

FinSaint · 11-07-2012, 07:24 AM

The fact that the Eagles' O-line has 4 of the 5 starters out probably had a lot to do with the fact that the Saints' players were able to create more pressure than they have in the past.

I don't expect that to be the case against the Failclowns' O-line.

Mardigras9 · 11-07-2012, 09:24 AM

Great pressure against a crappy Eagles O-line. If we don't get some of the same pressure on Ryan, White and Jones will eat our DB's for lunch (unfortunately).

Jamessr · 11-07-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Do you not see how we did better last night??

Enjoy the little things because we are stuck with this D for the rest of the year, good or bad. Why be pissy when we suck and when we do good?

Mike I'm sure you're a great guy and I realize we're all cheering for the same team. I don't want to arugue with you but I'm allowed to have my own opinion. I defended this defense up until the denver game. After 9 weeks they should of caught on to something. The facts are they went up against and O line that has 4-5 starters out. They still gave up a ton of yards and had it been any other team we would of lost, Bottom line. The Eagle are horrible in the red zone the defense can't take credit for that. You think we had a great game? Good, I'm happy for you. However reality will set in next week.

CharityMike · 11-07-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Mike I'm sure you're a great guy and I realize we're all cheering for the same team. I don't want to arugue with you but I'm allowed to have my own opinion. I defended this defense up until the denver game. After 9 weeks they should of caught on to something. The facts are they went up against and O line that has 4-5 starters out. They still gave up a ton of yards and had it been any other team we would of lost, Bottom line. The Eagle are horrible in the red zone the defense can't take credit for that. You think we had a great game? Good, I'm happy for you. However reality will set in next week.

You know what, I am not trying to argue with you either.We all have our own opinions. Maybe it's the way I am saying it and I am not being clear.

I know our defense sucks. I am not in lala land. I have not defended our defense this entire year. They have sucked since game 1. It was a kick in the sack in the begining but I have come to the conclusion that there is no sense getting my hopes up. Maybe thats why I am happy with the performance. I have zero expectation for games like the last one, so when it happened, it was exciting. I don't go into games thinking, maybe this will be the week we turn it around. No, there will be no turn around. We can only improve a little at a time. Unfortunately, there is not enugh time for this defense to get where we want them to be.

11-06-2012, 08:19 PM	#21
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: The Fact Of The Matter Actually, if this team could just tackle they would be a much better defense. lynwood, Crusader, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

11-06-2012, 08:32 PM	#22
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: The Fact Of The Matter Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Actually, if this team could just tackle they would be a much better defense. Oh, so true!

11-06-2012, 11:41 PM	#23
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: The Fact Of The Matter Originally Posted by Jamessr And when did I ever say I considered KC a good team? Jeez its like a crime to be disappointed in these guys... The defense is **** man I was using that as a reference to your statement of us just beating a lousy team. We had zero defensive success against the lousy Chiefs but we did have success against the Eagles. Both teams are lousy. Do you not see how we did better last night?? I know the defense is sh!t. Go look at any of my posts, I never once said everything is all good after last night. I am meerly living in the moment and appreciating our team playing a good game, which seems to be escaping some people who can't get past the suckiness of our D. Enjoy the little things because we are stuck with this D for the rest of the year, good or bad. Why be pissy when we suck and when we do good?

11-07-2012, 02:56 AM	#24
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: The Fact Of The Matter Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Actually, if this team could just tackle they would be a much better defense. Yeah if atleast the second or third guy would make the tackle...

11-07-2012, 06:41 AM	#25
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: The Fact Of The Matter Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Actually, if this team could just tackle they would be a much better defense. The same goes for all the other 31 defenses in the league... it's the fundamentals that really matter and what everything else is built on.

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11-07-2012, 06:54 AM	#26
SaintnDE 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 443	Re: The Fact Of The Matter i had been thinking over the last 4 or so games that a bit of mixture of spags new scheme and some of the old pin-your-ears back would maybe get them moving. i saw that monday night. i think our guys need that initial surge and a nice play to get their confidnece up. after that, they played a HELL of a lot better. not great, but good. you could feel they were jazzed up after getting to the QB. let them ride that...if it gives them confidence, that's a good thing. i think they need to continue that approach. but after they spend 10hrs a day for 3 days hitting the tackling dummies. that was just embarrasing. lynch run anybody?
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11-07-2012, 07:24 AM	#27
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: The Fact Of The Matter The fact that the Eagles' O-line has 4 of the 5 starters out probably had a lot to do with the fact that the Saints' players were able to create more pressure than they have in the past. I don't expect that to be the case against the Failclowns' O-line.

11-07-2012, 09:24 AM	#28
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: The Fact Of The Matter Great pressure against a crappy Eagles O-line. If we don't get some of the same pressure on Ryan, White and Jones will eat our DB's for lunch (unfortunately).

11-07-2012, 09:49 AM	#29
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: The Fact Of The Matter Originally Posted by CharityMike Do you not see how we did better last night?? Enjoy the little things because we are stuck with this D for the rest of the year, good or bad. Why be pissy when we suck and when we do good? Mike I'm sure you're a great guy and I realize we're all cheering for the same team. I don't want to arugue with you but I'm allowed to have my own opinion. I defended this defense up until the denver game. After 9 weeks they should of caught on to something. The facts are they went up against and O line that has 4-5 starters out. They still gave up a ton of yards and had it been any other team we would of lost, Bottom line. The Eagle are horrible in the red zone the defense can't take credit for that. You think we had a great game? Good, I'm happy for you. However reality will set in next week.
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11-07-2012, 10:34 AM	#30
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: The Fact Of The Matter Originally Posted by Jamessr Mike I'm sure you're a great guy and I realize we're all cheering for the same team. I don't want to arugue with you but I'm allowed to have my own opinion. I defended this defense up until the denver game. After 9 weeks they should of caught on to something. The facts are they went up against and O line that has 4-5 starters out. They still gave up a ton of yards and had it been any other team we would of lost, Bottom line. The Eagle are horrible in the red zone the defense can't take credit for that. You think we had a great game? Good, I'm happy for you. However reality will set in next week. You know what, I am not trying to argue with you either.We all have our own opinions. Maybe it's the way I am saying it and I am not being clear. I know our defense sucks. I am not in lala land. I have not defended our defense this entire year. They have sucked since game 1. It was a kick in the sack in the begining but I have come to the conclusion that there is no sense getting my hopes up. Maybe thats why I am happy with the performance. I have zero expectation for games like the last one, so when it happened, it was exciting. I don't go into games thinking, maybe this will be the week we turn it around. No, there will be no turn around. We can only improve a little at a time. Unfortunately, there is not enugh time for this defense to get where we want them to be.

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