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Seer1 04-13-2013 04:32 PM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 493787)
He's certainly worth the vet minimum. He's solid. He just hasn't been the impact player the Saints hoped for when they drafted him so highly. They have done worse.

How is he certainly worth the vet minimum?

RaginCajun83 04-13-2013 04:45 PM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
Why? Did they tow one of his expensive cars out of the parking lot

CheramieIII 04-13-2013 08:15 PM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
damn who was the only person that said this was going to happen? ME THAT'S WHO. another one bites the dust fellas.

saintsfan1976 04-13-2013 10:00 PM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 493987)
How is he certainly worth the vet minimum?

Durability
Familiarity
Dollars make sense
Gels with team
Trust from staff
Has a ring
Wants another

Seer1 04-13-2013 10:59 PM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 494066)
Durability
Familiarity
Dollars make sense
Gels with team
Trust from staff
Has a ring
Wants another

Meh. Spend the money where it'll have some positive impact.

vtiger72 04-14-2013 12:23 AM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
I really don't think Ellis is a good fit in the 3-4. He would be better served trying to sign with a team running the 4-3. With Dallas making the conversion, they could use a DT.

burningmetal 04-14-2013 04:26 AM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 493929)
Unless you're coaching or playing with Ellis, I don't think you can question his motivation.

We are talking about a guy who plays DT here. I'm not gushing over sacks from a DT. Haloti Nagta is arguably the best DT in the NFL and he had 5 sacks last year...

What we want from Ellis is to control the line of scrimmage? Can he do that with his size? I haven't seen it too often. BUT what he can do - as Danno pointed out - is rotate in and be a rushing DT (if there is such a thing) on passing downs.

League min. Prove it in camp. If not, no harm. I don't see why people are having issues with this.

I'm not so worried about his sack totals, either. It was supposed to be a big part of his game, to rush the passer, but I would never complain about him if he had been a good run stuffer. Or just been a solid space eater.

He is certainly not physically lacking. So that tells me he's not taking the game seriously enough. He has been consistently pushed around... And that is why I don't even want him around for depth. Unless he wakes up and starts playing like a man on a mission.

But that's one of those things where a change of scenery is probably the best thing for him. He's had his chance here. We'll see what the saints do, as this is only my opinion, and what I would do if I were making the decisions. I'm not, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

CheramieIII 04-14-2013 08:24 AM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
If the Saints are planning to fill the NT position with Hicks, Ellis, Bunkley and Johnson, they could have a heavy rotation that would work well. Hell those guys could do a down a piece and be hard charging everytime. Not a bad idea and I think that's exactly what coach is going to do. I told ya so!

Danno 04-14-2013 08:58 AM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 493987)
How is he certainly worth the vet minimum?

Before the Spags disaster, he had 137 tackles, 12-1/2 sacks, 13 Passes defended and 2 forced fumbles in 54 games.

That equates to roughly 34 tackles, 3 sacks and 3 PD's per season

Thats great for vet minimum.

blackangold 04-14-2013 10:01 AM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
I am no longer surprised by this community's desire to being back/defend players which consistently have not performed. Not sure if its blind loyalty or something else, but this D will never get to where it should be if we keep bring back washed up talent. Statistically Shanle had some great seasons, hell Jason David had some nice int numbers before we let him go, lets bring those guys back too.

Stop looking at what he is payed to come back and remember he'll be taking a roster spot away from a new prospect; a roster spot which he hasn't been worth since 2010.


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