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Old 04-13-2013, 12:13 PM   #1
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Disclaimer: I知 not saying that they should or are going to go through with any of these moves, nor am I predicting them; I知 just listing out a couple of them and providing why I could see the Saints doing them.

1. Using a mid-round draft pick on British Olympian Lawrence Okoye The Olympic athlete turned down an offer from the very prestigious Oxford University to chase his dream of playing in the NFL. If that痴 not dedication and drive, I don稚 know what is. He impressed at the super regional around a week ago and was scheduled to visit the Saints on Friday. I would love if the team snagged this guy late in the draft because of that determination and drive I mentioned earlier. Teams say they can稚 measure the intangibles, but I highly disagree. While he doesn稚 boast the best 哲FL talent, he has all the physical attributes to be a star DE in this league and as everyone knows that痴 one position the Saints could use a star at.

Opinion: I would love this move.

2.Saints acquiring Tim Tebow? I haven稚 heard any rumors or anything like that on a move like this, but it makes sense to me. Tim Tebow gets the worst deals ever when it comes to the NFL. He wins the starting job in Denver and gets ridiculed for finishing out the season with a winning record. The next year, he takes his teams to the playoffs and knocks off the NUMBER ONE defense in the league in the Steelers and then gets traded to a team who obviously didn稚 know what they had. If the Saints picked Tebow up through trade or even as a free agent, I wouldn稚 disagree with the move. The Saints like to run trick plays and gamble in games sometimes (Super Bowl 44), and Tebow would be the best person for this. Could use Tebow for many exotic packages, such as running fake field goals, punts, and even line him up at RB / TE sometimes to maybe get that 3rd and goal or 4th and 1 conversion. Not to mention learning behind one of the best in the league in Drew Brees, Tebow might be able to turn into a viable backup.

Opinion: I壇 be excited to see what the Saints used him for.

3. Saints drafting Manti Te弛 - Put down your pitchforks and your spears and hear me out here. All girlfriend (or lack thereof) jokes aside; Manti Te弛 has some of the best intangibles in the draft. Moreover, regardless of what his National Championship performance showed, the rest of his tape FAR outweighs that one game against ALABAMA, (A.K.A. The best team in the SEC which is on a different level than any other conference). The Saints love an intelligent football player and that痴 what they would get if they drafted Te弛. Te弛 could sit behind Vilma, Lofton, and all the rest of the linebackers and learn the ropes for a while and then come in when he痴 ready. I personally believe in Manti Te弛 and think he will be a good (potentially great if he is in the right system) linebacker in the NFL. Intangibles can carry someone a long way and this guy has all of them.

Opinion: I壇 be extremely skeptical about this and question the decision highly, but would not completely shoot it down as a stupid move.

4. Saints trade for Darelle Revis Watching NFL AM earlier on Revis rehab process and the Buccaneers being the only team really in the mix for Revis and I thought maybe the Saints were a secret player in the mix that nobody would expect. The jury is still out on who the team is going to draft with their first pick, and the Jets obviously want a first-rounder and then some for the star cornerback. I got to thinking about how the Saints would draft from then-on. This is a deal that came to me in this thought process: 展ould the Jets take our first and third this year and our 2014 second for Revis and their second rounder this year?. The Jets would get a heap of picks that they are dying for, and the Saints could still salvage this draft by getting a second-rounder back in return. However, that being said, the Saints would be in the same position they are this year, next year with the missing 2nd. If the Saints did get Revis, that would not only allow Revis to go from one Ryan brother to the other, who in my opinion, is better with Cornerbacks going back to Nnamdi in Oakland, but it would also completely remake our entire secondary, making it 10-fold better in my opinion. Revis and Lewis as starters with Robinson or Greer as the nickel corner would be much better than Lewis and Greer starting with P-Rob as the nickel corner (or the other way around with Greer and P-Rob). The only concern with the Saints signing Revis is his contract and the Saints having very little wriggle room for signings.

Opinion: I would welcome this move with open arms and would be even more jacked for the season to start.

All these moves are something to think about and maybe discuss as the draft is quickly (thank goodness) approaching us. I could see the Saints going through with any of these moves and I would be completely open-minded about every single one of them. What are your thoughts on the moves I致e mentioned here? Would love to hear your thoughts and maybe any other moves that you could see the Saints gamble on!

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Old 04-13-2013, 12:28 PM   #2
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Great post. I don't post as much as I should on here but I read anything and being from England, I have an interest in Okoye at the moment S0...

1) I like this but how far do you have to go down the draft to snag him? We have limited picks unless we trade down and this is a bit of a risk. I don't think he will get to be a UFA though. Gamble on 6th or 7th round? Totally happy with that.

2) I thought I was the only one who thought Tebow landing in New Orleans was a great idea! A good backup and a unique weapon for Payton is an offensive Mastermind. Perfect. I don't want to give up anything for him though so could we use the Ivory trade to get him? Straight swap or we get Tebow and like a 6th or 7th rounder? Like this a lot.

3) Not going to shoot you down as I appreciate your opinion but I am the complete opposite on Manti. I have seen so much tape of him missing tackles that it concerns me and as we have Vilma we might as well use him. Lofton will be in the hole for a while yet and not starting a 1st rounder like this immediately seems a waste. For me I would be absolutely distraught if we drafted Te'o as I would see it as a chronic waste.

4) There's something about Revis that concerns me. I think he is going to suffer with injury for the rest of his career now. I'm not a doctor and that is nothing but a hunch but I am concerned. Sure he is an amazing player, that is undoubtable but what we need to trade in order to get him and the fact we have little money and even MORE work to do next year with our cap, I will happily see him go elsewhere. Not for me at this time.

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Disclaimer: I知 not saying that they should or are going to go through with any of these moves, nor am I predicting them; I知 just listing out a couple of them and providing why I could see the Saints doing them.

1. Using a mid-round draft pick on British Olympian Lawrence Okoye

Opinion:

2.Saints acquiring Tim Tebow?

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4. Saints trade for Darelle Revis

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Great post, but
1. I'm ok with a mid rounder on this guys potential

2. I love Tebow, but he's a terrible fit for this team. Maybe if he agrees to play TE only.

3. Mantei is a classic fit as a 4-3 MLB. I just don't see him as a good fit in a 3-4.

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Danno - Why do you think Tebow is such a terrible fit?

Agree re Te'o and Revis. Think it has to be late round for Okoye though. Unless you have lots of picks. Like San Fran!
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Danno - Why do you think Tebow is such a terrible fit?
Its gimicky. We have Drew Brees and an arsenal of weapons. Using Tebow takes the ball out of Drew's hands. We're a team built on timing and execution. We don't need a gimmick to move the ball down the field on anyone. Me no likey.
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My opinion on each scenario without them all down,

One at a time, unless we just wanted someone to come in and help the defense practice against the spread option, I see no reason to dress tebow in the black and gold, that's giving away money. We would do better drafting EJ Manuel in the 4th or 5th than putting tebow on.

Manti I like the idea, but not in the first and not early in the second.... The bcs championship game did happen, the combine did to.... He's gonna be an okay linebacker ( may malaluga light) and that might be best case.... Js.... Of the scenarios this on is most likely....

Revis, this would be the biggest move we made in a long time, where would his 10 mill salary come from though, this would also put resigning JG in jeopardy and you don't wanna risk that.
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1. Using a mid-round draft pick on British Olympian Lawrence Okoye
I wouldn't mind this, if we pick up a mid round pick from the Ivory trade
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2.Saints acquiring Tim Tebow?
Absolutely not!
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3. Saints drafting Manti Te弛
No!
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4. Saints trade for Darelle Revis
We can't have the cap space...
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I just saw Tebow and I stopped reading.
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Am i the only one who wouldnt want Revis even if we did have the cap room?

I dont like him and his hold out for money every couple of years.
It sets a bad example and once one starts doing others will follow,we are not the Jets(thank the lord)and i dont want to go down that road.
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