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Old 04-14-2013, 05:19 AM   #1
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Vilma in our 3-4 scheme

Just wondering how/what his role will be to make him more successful in our 3-4 vs. when he was a Jet and struggled with it. Thoughts?
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Re: Vilma in our 3-4 scheme

he struggled in the middle so I expect to seem him outside which should work fairly well. right now i would list him as our best pass coverage LB. It will be interesting to watch after an off season with no major rehab.
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Re: Vilma in our 3-4 scheme

The Jets ran a bit different type of a 3-4 back then than what Rob Ryan is going to run in New Orleans now, so I think Vilma will fit into the scheme, just not as an every down LB.
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Re: Vilma in our 3-4 scheme

Ryan switches between formations frequently, so Vilma will see the field some I suppose... 3-4, 4-3 personnel "46", and his Psycho 1-5-5 formation

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The Jets ran a bit different type of a 3-4 back then than what Rob Ryan is going to run in New Orleans now, so I think Vilma will fit into the scheme, just not as an every down LB.
Yep, the WILB in Ryan's 3-4 is nearly identical to the WILL in a 4-3.

Lofton is the one I'm worried about.
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Re: Vilma in our 3-4 scheme

Vilma should either play ILB next to Lofton or ride the bench and wait for passing situations to get in coverage. OLB would be an awful fit; he's undersized for the OLB positions. At 230 Vilma would get crushed on running plays and now lacks explosiveness to be a pass rusher. What he does have going for him is the instincts and knowledge of the game.

Vilma best place on the team is coaching our young talent.
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Re: Vilma in our 3-4 scheme

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Yep, the WILB in Ryan's 3-4 is nearly identical to the WILL in a 4-3.

Lofton is the one I'm worried about.
What exactly has you worried Danno?
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What exactly has you worried Danno?
He's always played MLB in a 4-3. He hasn't played in a base 3-4 scheme yet, and playing that SILB spot is a lot different than a 4-3 MLB. Its the same thing Vilma tried to do but didn't do well. Vilma did OK, but went from an A-player to a B-player with that same transition. Lofton is only a tad bigger than Vilma, 1 inch shorter but 10 pounds heavier. He'll be taking on OG's a lot more than he did at MLB.
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He's always played MLB in a 4-3. He hasn't played in a base 3-4 scheme yet, and playing that SILB spot is a lot different than a 4-3 MLB. Its the same thing Vilma tried to do but didn't do well. Vilma did OK, but went from an A-player to a B-player with that same transition. Lofton is only a tad bigger than Vilma, 1 inch shorter but 10 pounds heavier. He'll be taking on OG's a lot more than he did at MLB.
Thank you for that insight!

As of yet no one has mentioned that Rex is probably getting a little feed back about the inside scoop in regards to the Saints running back Chris Ivory.

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He's always played MLB in a 4-3. He hasn't played in a base 3-4 scheme yet, and playing that SILB spot is a lot different than a 4-3 MLB. Its the same thing Vilma tried to do but didn't do well. Vilma did OK, but went from an A-player to a B-player with that same transition. Lofton is only a tad bigger than Vilma, 1 inch shorter but 10 pounds heavier. He'll be taking on OG's a lot more than he did at MLB.
I was thinking the same thing, but I believe he'll be fine. His true weakness is pass coverage. I see Vilma as a weakside outside linebacker rotating with Martez Wilson, Gallete or Butler being our strong side pass rusher. Lofton and Hawthorne in the middle. I expect a big improvement from Hawthorne. I'm beginng to hope we draft Vacarro, get rid of Harper and move Jenkins to the SS.
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