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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by |Mitch| But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks. Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; ...

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Old 07-30-2013, 06:34 AM   #41
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But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will
Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks...
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:37 AM   #42
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jordan is working out so far but kenny is going to be a yeti. i was going to say beast but the word is often over used in athletic discussions.

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Yeti?!? His Size?!?

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Yeti?!? His Size?!?

Prefer a velociraptor, no fear, intelligent, fierce, fast, cunning, deadly, yeah, a velociraptor...
Does this mean that every time he breaks up a pass or makes an Interception I can use the quote 'Clever Girl'

I'm assuming everyone will get that JP reference haha
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Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks...
Um; isn't that the reason Vaccaro was drafted?! I want my cake and eat it too, let Harper return to multiple sacks a season and Vaccaro can handle the pass coverage
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But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will
Its not simply blitzing. Its playing that traditional SS role that plays close to the line to support the LB's and cover that short to intermediate zone.

Harper did that very well and thats what he received that huge contract for.

Fifteen yards and in is where Harper shines. Outside of that 15 yards is when he gets into trouble, like most SS's do.

The real headscratcher was Jenkins. He seemed ideal for that deep centerfield saftey spot Spags runs. I'll chalk his down year up to the Spags disaster too.
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I know it's been over-discussed, but were I a Saints fan, I'd like to see Harper get some snaps at LB.
He's too small to get any consistent snaps at LB, teams would run right at him, and throw right to who he's covering.

He's basically playing a LB role when he blitzes from the box, but he's usually the unblocked man due to numbers
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Anyone who saw Roman Harper in pass coverage knows that KV was the right pick.
There was a very good argument for an OLB instead and had Jenkins not come along, a nose tackle as well.
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