Refs: Home Cooking?
 

Yeah, I know we won at Chicago and maybe it's because the women around me are making me "sensitive" this time of the month, but it sure did seem like the Head Linesman et al were given the Saints some "home cooking" on some of those second down spots with the football and "no calls" on the tackles...

Pats are tough enough, we don't need to be "against" the refs as well...

If we'd been a lesser team, they'd had a huge impact on the game outcome...

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Those spots were horrible.

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You used "et al". I just used "et al" in another thread. We've probably reached our quota for the year.

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Yeah they were, PT easily got a first and the refs moved the ball about a yard backwards

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I thought the spots were good. We got close but from what I can tell we did wind up a bit short and they were good calls. It frustrated me how many times we came up a yard short so consistently. I cant in good conscience blame the refs for that.

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I thought the same, but also felt the bad turf contributed. Several times during the game we lost potential yardage because of the turf giving way.

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Doesn't it seem like we've been against the refs for atleast all 5 games. Missing obvious holding calls vs ATL and alot of these games. But long as we win.. dont matta!

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just say it. the nfl league office does not want the saints in the driver seat going into the play offs. would they call and have an indirectly ask th/tell the refs to influence game? mmmmm i would not be surprised

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I think the grass played a big part in some of our difficulties in Chicago.
We seem to do a much better job planting and pushing off on turf.
Hopefully we gain back 1/2 a step this week and it shows in our timing and execution.
Referees can change the whole dynamic of a game with 1 or 2 irreversable judgement calls.
Endzone or 3rd down pass interferences and the like.
Ticky-tacky or let'em play... I just hope it's called equally so the guys can make the adjustment.

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Remember the shovel pass Brees got off to PT, but the refs called it a sack and ineligible to challenge? How can they stand by that status (ineligible to challenge) when the replay CLEARLY shows some of these calls are flat wrong?

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There's no question we had issues in the turf (which will be good learning experience moving forward) but there were clearly two spots, one with PT, that were clearly mis-spoted...

I don't like to ref and whine, but we were in Chicago, where they vote early and often...

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The no call on the deep pass to Meachum. Would have been. A TD if he wasn't being mugged

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Meh, it's always easy to remember the calls that didn't go our way. Refs are humans and humans **** up. It's just the way it goes. It's like I tell the kids: You're always playing against the refs as well as the other team. So quit whinin' about it and get out there and beat'em.

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Da Bears fans are saying the same thing. It's just part of the game. Helluva lot easier to swallow with a W though.

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I remember one favourable call that gave us a 1st down. But I remember 3 that were not good spots.

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Conspiracy Theorists unite! We'll all witness it today any time Brady gets touched by the defense. We'll be seeing bad spots again, and we'll see phantom PI calls for their receivers and none for ours.

Considering SEA lost, the NFL does NOT want us in the driver's seat for home field advantage throughout the playoffs and have Roger the Impotent hand Payton the Lombardi again.

Of course, we can just kick the everlasting ---- out of the Pats to where the zebras are not even a factor. Like my grandpaw always said: "Only losers whine about the refs." Conspiracy or not, we shall overcome.

These refs have it out for us.
 

Botched False start when it should be Neutral Zone infraction on NE.

Brees calls Timeout, dont get it, Play clock goes to Zero, and they dont even call that and allow the play to go which results in an INT.

They been horrible, obviously siding with the Pats.

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30-27 NE

Refs did their job in costing the Saints in this one with the kind of Pt swing they created.

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Between the calls and the no-calls the refs gave this game to the Pats.

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yeah and its quite sad when such a good game is decided the officiating.

These dumbasses miss the simple stuff, even when the ball hits the ground and bounces to the player they call it a completed pass.

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The refs contributed. We contributed. We still had a chnce to win regardless.

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The Malcolm Jenkins hit?? Just horrible. Either way, you cant give the ball back to them. We needed to make that first down. *****-footing will not win football games.

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Let's not make them the scapegoats. You give Tom Brady and the New England Patriots opportunities like that at the end of the game, you have no one to blame but yourself. This isn't their first rodeo. Sure there are always bad calls... happens in every game to everyone.

We get a first down, we win. We make another stop, we win. We didn't. We lost and on to next week. We're 5-1 and one and we barely lost the game to one of the better teams in the league. No biggie.

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Malcolm Jenkins abides by the NFL rules, goes low and uses his shoulder and was still flagged?! Was probably more annoyed at that than anything else...or Keenan Lewis, after intercepting the ball and being a hero, throws a receiver out of bounds and stops the clock?! Yes, I was annoyed at that...or the playcalling, or the defense looking a little lost because of the tempo..or..or...oh never mind.

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I am not going to put the loss on the refs, because only losers do that.

I will however say that the refs sucked eggs.

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I hate whining about the refs but in this case it's justified. The int that should have been a timeout was ludicrous. And the PF on Jenkins is just a bad rule being used at the worst possible time.

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who really thinks the nfl wants the road to the super bowl to go through new orleans?

no we lost that game as a team. both sides of the ball played flat and uninspired as a whole. worse outing i have seen this year and yet they still could have won it.

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I just hope this whole bad call thing stops against us.. but if they want it that bad they can have it.. cause we still gonna win the sb!

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Everyone gets bad calls, it's part of the human aspect of the game.

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How about the completion on the last drive that ball hit the ground then players ankle then bounced up and he caught the bouncing ball ... And they call that a completion ... Even Troy who does not like the Saints said that was a bad call

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we looked like crap on both sides today, def got gashed the whole first half on runs, then pulled it together a lil...but still Drew looked off from the get go. That sucked

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I'm normally the last person who will talk about the refs after a loss, and I spent most of the game defending the calls or saying that its our job to win with what we are given...BUT I will say that with how close the game was, and the number of EGREGIOUS mistakes (the timeout being the worst), I can't help but factor the officiating into this loss. I think Tom Brady could have beaten us with or without their help, but it took a lot of the fun out of the game when the coaches' strategies were obviously perturbed by bad refs.

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I agree. The Saints lost this game more than the pats won it!

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Don't even get me started on those inept refs. UGH. They started with a bang, banged it out the whole game, and ended it up with a bang! There are just no words.

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No one has truly seen how bad the officiating was.

This picture was captured on the last drive of the winning TD.

unless you got it out for someone, you just dont miss calls like this, its not 1 call, its several non complicated calls.

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This pisses me off so bad.


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How's it feel to be 1-4? :rolleyes:

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I picked up the game right before half-time and I have never been one to shout about calls but there were some serious errors. Anyone could see the game was being called a certain way...the Jenkins hit WTF? What else is he suppose to do, grab him by then ankles....then there was a third down catch that hit the ground...come on, that one was not even funny. After that I shook my head just like Brees. Fine with it if that's how they want to roll but come playoff time they get beat down because that chicken-this won't be called.