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WhoDat2301 11-05-2013 09:41 AM

Incognito or Martin - Would you want them??
 
If he is release from the phins would you want to pick him up? Why or Why not?

I say we do. It cant hurt us to have an enforcer on the line. I think thats what we are missing. He reminds me of Kyle Turley a lot. We all know SP and DB dont play that bully crap so I think he would be a good fit.

TheOak 11-05-2013 09:48 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Incognito's immaturity has cost the Dolphins 2 players.

Emphatically, no.

RaginCajun83 11-05-2013 09:51 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
No way on god's green earth would I want that piece of garbage on the Saints

lee909 11-05-2013 09:54 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
You have 10 minutes to answer the question

Should the Saints sign Richie Incognito if released?.

A.)No

B.)Most definitely Not

C.)Hell No

D.)He is about as welcome as a does of the clap.

E.)No Thank you

xan 11-05-2013 10:01 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
I always ask my class:

"If you could, would you pay for a cancerous abscess in your groin?"

thebdj 11-05-2013 10:02 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 544951)
D.)He is about as welcome as a dose of the clap.

A fantastic British saying. And my answer to the question :)

ikecomp 11-05-2013 10:06 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
I like his nastiness on the field but when what you do off the field outpaces your on the field contributions, that never works out.

Halo 11-05-2013 10:06 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
I like F) Send him to Kraplanta!

exile 11-05-2013 10:06 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
There aren't many things that would make me lose my Saints fandomship. But this might actually do it.

WhoDat2301 11-05-2013 10:20 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
I get that he is a douche bag off the field but remember Shocky was suppose to be that way also and SP keep him in check. Do you not think SP would have him under control if he is picked up?? Our O-line has no fight in them we need his type of enforcement, his nastyness, on the line. I really think thats what they are missing.

MtnExile 11-05-2013 10:42 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Shockey may have been a "douchebag"; but, if reports are to be believed, Incognito is an abusive psychopath.

Besides: HE'S A GUARD. Who do we sit, Evans or Grubbs, in order to let Incognito see the field? Or did you just want him for his locker room value?

SaintsBro 11-05-2013 10:54 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
No, because the "difficult" or "troubled" players that Sean Payton has chosen to take chances on and rehabilitate, guys like Anthony Hargrove, Shockey, Carl Nicks, and to a lesser extent Vilma, McCray, Heath Evans, these are guys who make poor decisions or bad behavioral issues, poor choices in friends, inexperience, things like that. That stuff you can teach, and fix.

But THIS guy's problem is way beyond douchebag or irresponsible, it represents a deeper character issue, that cannot be easily corrected. If it can even be corrected at all, at his age. No way.

nola_swammi 11-05-2013 10:56 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
I will not be a saints fan til ALL that involve in him signing with the saints are gone! That means the owner, general manager and even possible the coaches. This will be the worst thing to ever happen to me, I don't even want to think of him signing with the saints. Do he deserve another chance to play with a nfl team? probally after some years pass and psych evaluation but not with the saints

TheOak 11-05-2013 11:01 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnExile (Post 544981)
Shockey may have been a "douchebag"; but, if reports are to be believed, Incognito is an abusive psychopath.

Besides: HE'S A GUARD. Who do we sit, Evans or Grubbs, in order to let Incognito see the field? Or did you just want him for his locker room value?

I would throw racist in there also..

I actually laughed out loud at the "locker room value" comment.

darksoul35 11-05-2013 11:14 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
At least the O line we have now are humbley sucking if that's even a word. I actually feel sorry for our terrible offensive line. If we had him I would want bad things to happen to us.. No thanks.

TheOak 11-05-2013 11:19 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Max California ~ "If you dance with the devil, the devil don't change. The devil changes you."

AlaskaSaints 11-05-2013 11:23 AM

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Hell no.

Alaska

WhoDat2301 11-05-2013 11:29 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
All great points I can see the not parts. Thanks for the discussion on this. I do feel that our O-line needs someone nasty on it. Its like we have no "drive". We look pathetic. We need a K.Turley.

The Dude 11-05-2013 11:42 AM

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Why would you even joke about that?

ScottF 11-05-2013 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat2301 (Post 544967)
I get that he is a douche bag off the field but remember Shocky was suppose to be that way also and SP keep him in check. Do you not think SP would have him under control if he is picked up?? Our O-line has no fight in them we need his type of enforcement, his nastyness, on the line. I really think thats what they are missing.

Comparing Turley or Shockey to a racist bully who threatens his teammates' lives? not even sure what to say about that

WhoDat2301 11-05-2013 11:56 AM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 545008)
Comparing Turley or Shockey to a racist bully who threatens his teammates' lives? not even sure what to say about that

I am only trying to comparing there play on the field. All of them are "punishers". They get after it on the field. Thats the only real comparison I was trying to make. I have already said the dude is a total douche off the field. That is a huge huge reason I would not like him on the team and That is what I am getting from everyone on here.

Budsdrinker 11-05-2013 11:58 AM

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Now I might would be interested in the Martin kid because I think his time will be done in Miami also.

TXGSP 11-05-2013 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 545012)
Now I might would be interested in the Martin kid because I think his time will be done in Miami also.

May be a good way to bring in a younger player on the O-line to learn for rest of season and push current players next year.

Get him out of Miami into a better culture.

There is no way someone else didn't know what was going on...

SaintsBro 11-05-2013 01:16 PM

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AND that Martin kid could probably be gotten for cheap, because he will no doubt get some kind of settlement to leave Miami and not sue or bring further revelations to light....settlement/guaranteed money from the Dolphins, plus league minimum from the Saints...he will be doing quite well.

D_it_up 11-05-2013 01:22 PM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
I'll answer your question with another question. Any free agent centers on the market?

TheOak 11-05-2013 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat2301 (Post 545010)
I am only trying to comparing there play on the field. All of them are "punishers". They get after it on the field. Thats the only real comparison I was trying to make. I have already said the dude is a total douche off the field. That is a huge huge reason I would not like him on the team and That is what I am getting from everyone on here.

You cant keep ignoring the devil outside of the 60 minutes a week. Sean Payton can not control what Sean Payton doesn't know. Do you think Joe Philbin knew he had players being extorted in excess of $10k? That is a felony, and i suppose exactly what the team known for Bounties needs to have associated with their name?.

WhoDat!656 11-05-2013 02:08 PM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 544951)
You have 10 minutes to answer the question

Should the Saints sign Richie Incognito if released?.

A.)No

B.)Most definitely Not

C.)Hell No

D.)He is about as welcome as a does of the clap.

E.)No Thank you

F.). All of the above

I fixed it for you

rezburna 11-05-2013 02:22 PM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
He's probably play better then Grubbs has been lately...and even Jahri hasn't looked good...but nah...I'd pass...unless we can get him for close to league minimum.

ScottF 11-05-2013 02:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 545055)
He's probably play better then Grubbs has been lately...and even Jahri hasn't looked good...but nah...I'd pass...unless we can get him for close to league minimum.

you get what you pay for

"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."

|Mitch| 11-05-2013 02:32 PM

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Like everyone else, I like what he brings to the field. It's just all the off-the-field stuff that comes with him that I would say no!

rezburna 11-05-2013 02:46 PM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 545058)
you get what you pay for

"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."

This is my 1st time seeing what he said. The "N" word is getting really loose out of the mouths of other races right now. Lol. This doesn't really bother me. Rookie should've kicked his ass. Problem solved.

aintasinner 11-05-2013 03:30 PM

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No way we need anything he has to offer. Anyone who contributes to a major division within a team, regardless of what kind of talent he may possess, should not be wanted. Our reputation took a bad enough hit last year with Bountygate, even though much of what we were accused of turned out to be untrue. The last thing we need is to be known as the team who picked up the guy who was let go by his former team for extorting, harassing, and bullying another team mate. Unequivocally, no!!!

WhoDat2301 11-05-2013 03:35 PM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 545045)
You cant keep ignoring the devil outside of the 60 minutes a week. Sean Payton can not control what Sean Payton doesn't know. Do you think Joe Philbin knew he had players being extorted in excess of $10k? That is a felony, and i suppose exactly what the team known for Bounties needs to have associated with their name?.

Well SP and the NFL now know what he has done. It was just a question on weather or not you would want him on the team. I want his tenasity on the field but not the extra baggage that comes with it off.

Utah_Saint 11-05-2013 03:53 PM

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Nope, I like having players on my teams that I can root for, not be embarrassed by.

TheOak 11-05-2013 04:43 PM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat2301 (Post 545085)
Well SP and the NFL now know what he has done. It was just a question on weather or not you would want him on the team. I want his tenasity on the field but not the extra baggage that comes with it off.

You say "what he has done" as if he had a single moment of indiscretion.. The NFL and Payton do not know what he has done, they know what he got caught doing.

It is not what he did, it is what he is.

Here is the litmus test at BlackandGold.com. If rezburna doesn't want him... Its very bad.

Incognito is suspended by the Dolphins, before that he was suspended by:
Huskers coach Frank Solich for reasons never reported
Bill Callahan for repeated violations of teams rules
Benched by Steve Spagnuolo then released

He is a disgrace to the Dolphins, the League. Dont be surprised when the League comes down hard on him for conduct detrimental.

He is not going to play anywhere for a while.

Halo 11-05-2013 04:47 PM

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I think it's time for his medication. He obviously doesn't take it with his methamphetamine and espresso in the morning. Tisk tisk!... sounds like a piece of crap to me.

Barry from MS 11-05-2013 04:59 PM

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Yes, I want him (...wait for it...) to spend the rest of his life running naked through a cornfield backwards. Piece of absolute garbage that does not deserve to be called human. Wonder why Junior didn't like Dick Incognito? He knows evil when he smells it.

Martin, on the other hand...why would anyone want a physically talented and intelligent OT from Stanford?

hagan714 11-05-2013 05:01 PM

Re: Incognito - Would you want him??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 544953)
I always ask my class:

"If you could, would you pay for a cancerous abscess in your groin?"

:itsgood: RFLMAO

Garry42 11-05-2013 05:59 PM

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I do not want him in New Orleans, but the sad part is some other team will pick him up. It doesn't matter how much of a dbag you are, if you fill a need, some team will take you.

lsutigerfan 11-05-2013 06:16 PM

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NO!!! He is a racist piece of shiit.


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