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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; For Strief to grade out positve in zone blocking with bad knees doesn't say much about the other O-linemen. If and I mean if zone blocking has caused all the sacks, hits, hurries, knockdowns on Brees and stifled our run ...

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Old 12-27-2013, 04:41 PM   #21
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For Strief to grade out positve in zone blocking with bad knees doesn't say much about the other O-linemen. If and I mean if zone blocking has caused all the sacks, hits, hurries, knockdowns on Brees and stifled our run game seems to me there lies the problem.
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Old 12-27-2013, 04:53 PM   #22
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Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era

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For Strief to grade out positve in zone blocking with bad knees doesn't say much about the other O-linemen. If and I mean if zone blocking has caused all the sacks, hits, hurries, knockdowns on Brees and stifled our run game seems to me there lies the problem.
I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal.
Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert.
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I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal.
Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert.
Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time
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Old 12-27-2013, 05:15 PM   #24
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Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time
Thank you mister O-line helper dude!!!
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Old 12-27-2013, 06:25 PM   #25
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Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time
I have said it before and I'm going to say it again, the zone blocking isn't working. Our lineman are not cut out for it. They need to go back to gap blocking.
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Old 12-27-2013, 06:41 PM   #26
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I will continue to blame the entire offense, staff included. It's really difficult to justify the struggles of any one position, this season, by blaming another. They have all vastly underperformed and, at numerous times, just flat out sucked.
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I wish we still had Kromer and stuck with gap blocking. It worked for years.


....having a healthy Carl Nicks back would be nice also.
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Old 12-28-2013, 10:09 AM   #28
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I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal.
Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert.
Me either!! I thought it was for everything.
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:32 AM   #29
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scheme?? skip it

saints played to many games with the OL over the past few years and it has caught up. Time tp address it is now.

Streif has always be "Serviceable" as OT. Now when you use that word he is the measuring stick. he is the man cog at OT and must be retained.

As for the rest draft baby draft depth is a major issue and i have yet to see anyone of the bench that impresses me enough to place a keepers tag on

defense is what it is and always should be since Williams was here. No i am not propping Roy Boy up just yet. but i am not hanging him either

the scouting reports are out and teams have our number.

time to readjust and start really looking at some serious options to make moves now to address needs even if a fan favorite or two moves on. the window for another super bowl or two is getting smaller.

gut check time for both sides of the ball.

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They don't practice the zone scheme enough to be proficient at it. Try it for 25 times a game and see what happens.
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