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Old 11-30-2014, 10:43 AM   #31
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Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense

Damn, to bad some positional coaches are such a nice guys...

You can suck at doing your job but if you are good with Payton and have no backbone you are OK...
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:55 AM   #32
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My issue is the positional coaches especially special teams and Vitt seem to constantly get off the hook because they are close woth Payton. This will be the third DC sacked since 2011 the linebackers have stunk up the joint nearly every year yet its always the DC that takes the blame.

I do laugh at the reports saying how we have spent highly on the defense in rookie picks and free agents. plenty of money has been wasted yes but when was the last time the team took a LB in the first?. The scouts anf positional coaches need to go before Ryan but it wont happen.
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Old 11-30-2014, 11:02 AM   #33
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Allen was a awful DC with the Broncos a terrible head coach with the Raiders why would we bring him back other than he is another loyal member of Paytons twam


Allen's Broncos were in the bottom half of yards allowed, ranked 23rd, but were 5th in the league in sacks


Its Greg Williams all over again.
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Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense

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CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton and DC Rob Ryan "strongly dislike each other," and "change is inevitable this offseason."

Sources told La Canfora that the two men "hate" each other. Ryan turned around the defense last season, but the relationship between Ryan and Payton has deteriorated in a 4-7 season. They've gotten into multiple heated exchanges on the sideline and behind closed doors. Ryan will likely be fired. Ex-Raiders coach Dennis Allen, who worked under Payton in New Orleans before going to Denver, could be a candidate to replace Ryan. That's pure speculation on our part.

Source: CBS Sports
Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong?
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Allen was a awful DC with the Broncos a terrible head coach with the Raiders why would we bring him back other than he is another loyal member of Paytons twam


Allen's Broncos were in the bottom half of yards allowed, ranked 23rd, but were 5th in the league in sacks


Its Greg Williams all over again.
Yeah I don't get the love for Allen either. Sure we had lots of interceptions in 2009 when he was secondary coach but I don't see anything that makes him an attractive DC option.
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Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong?
He may be, but I think its easy to see that Payton and Ryan are not getting on, which is to be expected because the whole team is a mess at this point.

Payton never seems to like anybody he hires after a year though, he and GW went at each others throats after the SB season.
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3rd down conversions
Saints Offense - #2 in the NFL (Dallas #1)
Saints Defense -#32 in the NFL (Dead Freaking Last)
Even worse, to me, is that we are giving up like 3-18's and ****. I mean wtf?
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Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong?
Doesn't matter. Just in time for Saints game day preparations.
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Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense

If we are going to hire a good d-coord, why don't we hire Wade? Am I wrong to think this guy is a really good D-coord?
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Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense

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The defense has been bad since 2009,Payton needs to start looking closer to home before he blames yet another DC

How about a GM that isn't a glorified account

Looking for scouts that actually find talent

A linebacker coach that can actually get them playing well(have we had a top notch LB other than Vilam?)

Why is Greg McMahon still in a job

Bill Johnson has had how many job lines since he came here

Rick Reiprish has been living on the back of the 2006 for closing in on 10 years
GM should be long gone, agree! I wanted Romeo when we hired RR. I'd like to see either RC or WP. What is Ray Rhodes up to? That guy always had solid defenses. Jesus just get someone in here that has had solid defenses in the past.
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