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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; This Saint_LB guy needs to tighten up. So you think I need to \"tighten\" up, huh. Sure you didn\'t mean \"lighten\" up. I will lighten up the day you stop contradicting yourself and continuously starting threads intended to stir the ...

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Old 01-31-2005, 09:37 PM   #31
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This Saint_LB guy needs to tighten up.
So you think I need to \"tighten\" up, huh. Sure you didn\'t mean \"lighten\" up. I will lighten up the day you stop contradicting yourself and continuously starting threads intended to stir the crowd up. The difference between you and I is I don\'t take any of this stuff seriously, while you and some of the others try to make a classroom out of this forum, constantly trying to dazzle us with you b/s.
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:44 PM   #32
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Danno and Billy, thanks.

I continue then to believe that our CBs are a C with MM alone (or a Z+, just for LB).

[Edited on 1/2/2005 by JKool]
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:48 PM   #33
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I\'ve been a long term reader of this site. 99% of the time, I just read you guys\' comments and evals about the team. But I have to ask....Did Bellamy really play that bad? I thought he did ok. He\'s done great since moving to SS. I agree he is getting a little old, but I don\'t think SS is something we need to REALLY help the D. I\'m lookin at DT and LB. What do you think?
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:54 PM   #34
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j, welcome to the board.

I thought Bellamy looked pretty good in the games I saw. The concern here is more this:
1. Old.
2. Not too flashy.

There is also a concern about depth at the Safety position.

My view is that LB is the place we need most help (probably two guys). Another DB and a DT would be of great help. So I guess, you and I more or less agree.
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Old 01-31-2005, 11:31 PM   #35
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Here\'s the BMG spin.

With 2 new starters, we can be a middle of the pack defense.
With 4 new starters, we can be a top 3rd defense.

Now where we get 2-4 new starters.....

I suppose we might be able to sign 1-2 players in free agency. If we\'re lucky we can draft 1 starter who will play 16 games next season. Now where to get that 4th guy.... I suppose we could trade to get that 4th player.....

At any rate, I figure that if we could sign any combination of 2 from these guys: Ed Hartwell, Seth Payne (NT), Will Witherspoon, Pat Williams (NT), Jason Ferguson (NT), or Adalious Thomas, then we could be in pretty good shape. I think I\'d like Ferguson and Witherspoon myself, but I wouldn\'t complain with Hartwell or Thomas.

After that, I don\'t see a free agent corner that I\'d want. But if Saban is serious about cutting guys, I\'d be happy to take Surtain or Madison off his hands and could be persuaded to trade for one of these guys. If the Titans have to cut Samari Rolle, I\'d be interested if the price was right.

At safety, I\'d rather wait for the draft and pick for depth at that position. Bellamy has had a couple of very good years now and I\'d keep him around. However, if the Titans really do cut a lot of people, then I\'d give serious thought to Lance Schulters too.

By the way, Joe Nedney might be a cap casualty in Tennessee too, and he might be a better option for kicker than drafting someone.

At DT, I\'d rather not take Hovan. He seems like the Vikings answer to Sullivan. Given Haslett\'s record for motivating underachievers, I think Hovan would be a huge and expensive mistake.

Alll this to say, we won\'t fix this defense through the draft alone. We also won\'t fix this defense by picking up 2nd and 3rd tier players. We need to sign guys that are starting where they are and are top players.

I guess that I can\'t get too excited about defense threads because I think the organization with sit on its hands through free agency again. I don\'t see us signing a major free agent on defense. If we fail to go after a big free agent, then just get used to being in the bottom half of NFL defenses next year.

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Old 02-01-2005, 09:46 AM   #36
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What about Ty law at saftey? Rumor has it he will not be with the Pats next year after the play of the young guys and his large salary :shrug:
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