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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Oh it's warming up alright. Faith will be lost in the mighty Sean Payton especially when you have a QB like Brees. I don't want to see him go but I do want him to improve a team with lost ...

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Old 09-09-2015, 06:40 PM   #11
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Oh it's warming up alright. Faith will be lost in the mighty Sean Payton especially when you have a QB like Brees. I don't want to see him go but I do want him to improve a team with lost potential.
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Someone say hot seats?


Ohhhh wait...
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:40 PM   #14
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Well with the lack of being able to put a decent defense on the field since he has been here . Going thru defensive coordinator like he does juicy fruit. With his awesome track record of drafting players. The number of players in trouble with the law. The scandals that have occurred under his watch the Vicodin ordeal bounty gate etc. recommending hude deals for players only to see them jettisoned out of town. there has to be warming of the seat if you ask me

The only reason its not is because of the superbowl but that was almost 7yrs ago. When is that not going to be enough to save him. We got rid of Jim Mora for less and he was just as good or better than sean payton and Mora didn't have a elite qb to work with

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Actually, Jim Mora quit. He may well have been fired after the season, but he didn't want to deal with it anymore. Which is the reason I'm not one of these Mora apologists who say what a great coach he was, and, "if only he had an offense".

I do think that Payton is underachieving in recent years and would absolutely be on the hot seat if it weren't for the fact that we're the Saints, and he won a superbowl. He gets way too much of a pass because of it.

I'm not calling for his firing, and I've said that repeatedly. But I find it nauseating how much butt kissing goes on when his name is mentioned. Nobody else in the real world gets to live off of a past accomplishment. You have to actually keep something going. The talent has been there, and you gotta expect a little more. Is that being spoiled? There are a couple people around here riding giant horses who would say so, but those kind of people are more concerned with feeling superior than they are about examining the heart of the matter.

We've been to the playoffs here and there, but as the core of that superbowl team has aged and moved on, the roster has not been turned over very successfully. That falls on Sean and Mickey.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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I think the superbowl win gives him a good 10 years.
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Not very, I'd say pretty cold.
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Old 09-10-2015, 11:26 AM   #17
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At some point he coaches Dallas.
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:21 PM   #18
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We he first arrived in New Orleans I recall hearing or reading where he said he had a 5 year plan. We over-achieved from the beginning and won it all in 3 years.

Did we catch lightning in a bottle, or was it really all about Sean's influence (with a healthy assist from Loomie)?

If you ask me, we're in year two of the second cycle, if you get what I mean. The crazy-over-the-top one year suspension effed things up considerably, not to mention the draft picks, so that's kinda why I see it as year 2 of Sean's second 'master plan'.

Hot seat? I don't think Sean is on or anywhere near the hot seat. I think when he ever does leave New Orleans it will be on his own terms or at worst a mutual agreement to part ways.

He's not old, out of style or out of touch with 'today's' players. He remains one of the top offensive coaches. He has been dealt a hand that he didn't deserve, kept his mouth shut, came back with his head held high and got back to business, but hampered considerably relative to the 31 other HCs.

We whiffed on last year's draft but it sure looks like we scored this year. If we're two years in to the second five year plan we're in very good shape if you ask me.

Now, I'd love to see us win a Super Bowl with Rob Ryan cause he'd be fun to watch, but I question whether we will. Rob's seat is en fuego. Sean's? Not even lukewarm.

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We he first arrived in New Orleans I recall hearing or reading where he said he had a 5 year plan. We over-achieved from the beginning and won it all in 3 years.

Did we catch lightning in a bottle, or was it really all about Sean's influence (with a healthy assist from Loomie)?

If you ask me, we're in year two of the second cycle, if you get what I mean. The crazy-over-the-top one year suspension effed things up considerably, not to mention the draft picks, so that's kinda why I see it as year 2 of Sean's second 'master plan'.

Hot seat? I don't think Sean is on or anywhere near the hot seat. I think when he ever does leave New Orleans it will be on his own terms or at worst a mutual agreement to part ways.

He's not old, out of style or out of touch with 'today's' players. He remains one of the top offensive coaches. He has been dealt a hand that he didn't deserve, kept his mouth shut, came back with his head held high and got back to business, but hampered considerably relative to the 31 other HCs.

We whiffed on last year's draft but it sure looks like we scored this year. If we're two years in to the second five year plan we're in very good shape if you ask me.

Now, I'd love to see us win a Super Bowl with Rob Ryan cause he'd be fun to watch, but I question whether we will. Rob's seat is en fuego. Sean's? Not even lukewarm.
Well it was year four that we won the SB, but yeah those were obviously the good times. There should not be a second 5 year plan. When he got here we were a mess. When you build up your team to championship status, it shouldn't fall apart. And it hasn't yet.... But the roster is lazily declining.

I get what you're saying about the suspension year, but that didn't affect the talent on the field. I'm becoming a broken record with this statement but, as I've said, I'm more concerned about the management of this team than I am of Payton's coaching. Just not crazy about the personnel decisions. But it does appear, at least for now, that this latest draft went okay. I haven't seen anything out of the first two picks to get excited about, but hopefully they come around, too.

Edit: I should add that I did like the signing's of Spiller and Browner. It's just unfortunate they have been injured.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Hate to say I told ya so but
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