An AB Option???

saintswhodi · 02-11-2005, 01:10 PM

Nice job again Tobias.

WD, I have been fighting forever with folks wanting to blame the drops as a big problem for AB, and we are nowhere near the league leaders. Juat another of many of the mis-leading items that are thrown out there in defense of AB, instead of him just not being able to get it done.

saintswhodi · 02-11-2005, 01:11 PM

We discussed San Fran TR, but ARI seems more likely if it were to happen.

RDOX · 02-12-2005, 09:16 AM

We discussed San Fran TR, but ARI seems more likely if it were to happen.

I still think I\'d prefer Rattay over Brooks, with Sheppard as OC you may see something different. This is also not an \"Anyone but Brooks thread.\" The only other option that I see is Turk Schornert(sp) kicking Brooks in the backside and MAKING him step up. I fear that is the only way this is going to get done. The buddy, buddy approach hasn\'t worked.

But I agree totally with one sentiment on this thread. Brooks needs a change of venue. If he does well elsewhere good for him, but I don\'t believe that he will be able to reinvent himself here. There\'s too much poor history.

JKool · 02-12-2005, 11:19 AM

Whodi,

I\'m aware of the stats, but thanks for the links.

My question wasn\'t about whether or not Hass is better than AB. That is why I didn\'t say \"no\" - you are well aware of my standards on who does get a \"no\".

My question was \"why did Hass trail off last year\" over previous years\' perfomances. I was genuinely just interested. Perhaps he is on the way down? Maybe he was injured? I was just wondering about that.

saintswhodi · 02-12-2005, 11:23 AM

I was providing those links, especially the second ones, so you can see the amount of drops by his receivers, including the drop in the playoff game against the Rams where they would have won. Plus the fact that Koren Robinson, his second or first receiver option depending on the season had his drug suspension and himself dropped almost half the passes thrown his way in crucial situations, most famously on a 3rd down play that would have given them the first down to run out the clock on the Rams and win their first meeting. The Rams went on to win that game too. The receiving talent he was accustomed to definitely let him down this year. That\'s the explanation.

JKool · 02-12-2005, 11:36 AM

Ah ha.

Ok.

LongTimeFan · 02-12-2005, 06:05 PM

Hassleback has no where near the talent Brooks has, are you kidding us?
Give Brooks the same line as Hassleback and you would see a much improved Brooks, Hassleback?, Playoffs, with Hassleback?Hassleback, that\'s funny

turbo_dog · 02-12-2005, 06:31 PM

...speaking of trade...

..do you guys forget who has been the biggest AB sponsor throughout AB\'s pro career? Do you know where he\'s at?

..Julian Peterson, anybody???

...yeah yeah, I know, I\'m daydeaming...

God, that would be awesome.

[Edited on 13/2/2005 by turbo_dog]

saintswhodi · 02-12-2005, 08:41 PM

Okay Longtime, watever you say. LMAO!!! We can also add Hasselbeck committs nowhere near the dumb mistakes AB does. Wanna add that? He puts up similar stats with receivers who drop EVERYTHING. Please.

[Edited on 13/2/2005 by JOESAM2002]

LongTimeFan · 02-12-2005, 09:00 PM

saintswhodi

I really think Hasslback is an ok QB but just don\'t think that he could move the Saints further in the right direction than Brooks so why bring him in, now there are some teams that he could improve, Bears, 49\'s, Washington and a few others, but I think Brooks has more talent and has a much better arm than Hassleback, if you were to ask me which QB would I be willing to trade Brooks for it would be a P.Manning, Brady or even a Culpepper, if you trade , trade for an improvment.
Seems that we talk about Brooks a lot on this site which makes it interesting and fun.
I guess I don\'t like changes unless it\'s for the better

02-11-2005, 01:10 PM	#31
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	An AB Option??? Nice job again Tobias. WD, I have been fighting forever with folks wanting to blame the drops as a big problem for AB, and we are nowhere near the league leaders. Juat another of many of the mis-leading items that are thrown out there in defense of AB, instead of him just not being able to get it done.

02-11-2005, 01:11 PM	#32
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	An AB Option??? We discussed San Fran TR, but ARI seems more likely if it were to happen.

02-12-2005, 09:16 AM	#33
RDOX 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 264	An AB Option??? We discussed San Fran TR, but ARI seems more likely if it were to happen. I still think I\'d prefer Rattay over Brooks, with Sheppard as OC you may see something different. This is also not an \"Anyone but Brooks thread.\" The only other option that I see is Turk Schornert(sp) kicking Brooks in the backside and MAKING him step up. I fear that is the only way this is going to get done. The buddy, buddy approach hasn\'t worked. But I agree totally with one sentiment on this thread. Brooks needs a change of venue. If he does well elsewhere good for him, but I don\'t believe that he will be able to reinvent himself here. There\'s too much poor history.
RDOX 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 264

02-12-2005, 11:19 AM	#34
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	An AB Option??? Whodi, I\'m aware of the stats, but thanks for the links. My question wasn\'t about whether or not Hass is better than AB. That is why I didn\'t say \"no\" - you are well aware of my standards on who does get a \"no\". My question was \"why did Hass trail off last year\" over previous years\' perfomances. I was genuinely just interested. Perhaps he is on the way down? Maybe he was injured? I was just wondering about that.

02-12-2005, 11:23 AM	#35
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	An AB Option??? I was providing those links, especially the second ones, so you can see the amount of drops by his receivers, including the drop in the playoff game against the Rams where they would have won. Plus the fact that Koren Robinson, his second or first receiver option depending on the season had his drug suspension and himself dropped almost half the passes thrown his way in crucial situations, most famously on a 3rd down play that would have given them the first down to run out the clock on the Rams and win their first meeting. The Rams went on to win that game too. The receiving talent he was accustomed to definitely let him down this year. That\'s the explanation.

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02-12-2005, 11:36 AM	#36
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	An AB Option??? Ah ha. Ok.

02-12-2005, 06:05 PM	#37
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	An AB Option??? Hassleback has no where near the talent Brooks has, are you kidding us? Give Brooks the same line as Hassleback and you would see a much improved Brooks, Hassleback?, Playoffs, with Hassleback?Hassleback, that\'s funny

02-12-2005, 06:31 PM	#38
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,543	An AB Option??? ...speaking of trade... ..do you guys forget who has been the biggest AB sponsor throughout AB\'s pro career? Do you know where he\'s at? ..Julian Peterson, anybody??? ...yeah yeah, I know, I\'m daydeaming... God, that would be awesome. [Edited on 13/2/2005 by turbo_dog]

02-12-2005, 08:41 PM	#39
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	An AB Option??? Okay Longtime, watever you say. LMAO!!! We can also add Hasselbeck committs nowhere near the dumb mistakes AB does. Wanna add that? He puts up similar stats with receivers who drop EVERYTHING. Please. [Edited on 13/2/2005 by JOESAM2002]

02-12-2005, 09:00 PM	#40
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	An AB Option??? saintswhodi I really think Hasslback is an ok QB but just don\'t think that he could move the Saints further in the right direction than Brooks so why bring him in, now there are some teams that he could improve, Bears, 49\'s, Washington and a few others, but I think Brooks has more talent and has a much better arm than Hassleback, if you were to ask me which QB would I be willing to trade Brooks for it would be a P.Manning, Brady or even a Culpepper, if you trade , trade for an improvment. Seems that we talk about Brooks a lot on this site which makes it interesting and fun. I guess I don\'t like changes unless it\'s for the better
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