Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator

jjasso007 · 01-21-2016, 01:49 PM

Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints' defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator - Black and Gold

So....?

Euphoria · 01-21-2016, 01:57 PM

You can't really make anything out of it because you also have to weigh in the opponents as well.

|Mitch| · 01-21-2016, 01:58 PM

SCORING

Ryan: 31.5 ppg

Allen: 26.8 ppg

TOTAL YARDS

Ryan: 424.3 ypg

Allen: 395.3 ypg

YARDS PER PLAY

Ryan: 6.7

Allen: 6.6

RUSHING YARDS

Ryan: 131.2 ypg

Allen: 126.5 ypg

YARDS PER CARRY

Ryan: 4.9 ypc

Allen: 4.9 ypc

RUSHING TOUCHDOWNS

Ryan: 7, 0.7 per game

Allen: 5, 0.83 per game

PASSING YARDS

Ryan: 293.1 ypg

Allen: 268.8 ypg

COMPLETION PERCENTAGE

Ryan: 66.7 percent

Allen: 71.4 percent

YARDS PER ATTEMPT

Ryan: 8.4

Allen: 8.2

TOUCHDOWN PASSES

Ryan: 28, 2.8 per game

Allen: 17, 2.8 per game

INTERCEPTIONS

Ryan: 4, 1.1 percent of attempts

Allen: 5, 2.6 percent of attempts

SACKS

Ryan: 22, 6.3 percent of attempts

Allen: 9, 4.6 percent of attempts

FIRST DOWNS

Ryan: 23.6 per game

Allen: 24 per game

THIRD-DOWN CONVERSIONS

Ryan: 34.8 percent

Allen: 50.8 percent

RED-ZONE PERCENTAGE

Ryan: 60.5 percent

Allen: 81.8 percent

TURNOVERS FORCED

Ryan: 13, 1.3 per game

Allen: 9, 1.5 per game

FIRST DOWNS BY PENALTY

Ryan: 37, 3.7 per game

Allen: 17, 2.8 per game

I'm glad he's getting another shot this coming season

|Mitch| · 01-21-2016, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

You can't really make anything out of it because you also have to weigh in the opponents as well.

The division games seemed to signal the most, since both coordinators got a shot at each team. Playing those three teams again, the Saints improved against Tampa Bay, shut down the Falcons’ running game better than they had in the first meeting and started strong against Carolina even if the finish wasn’t what the Saints wanted.

hagan714 · 01-21-2016, 04:08 PM

I am ignoring the stats. my biggest complaint about rob was in game adjustments. he had none. Allen made adjustments on the fly, especially at halftime. Dennis gets it. this is a game of adjustments. plus he actually got the secondary to almost stop committing fouls. browner had a game with zero. zero! that in itself was a huge adjustment.

dizzle88 · 01-21-2016, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I am ignoring the stats. my biggest complaint about rob was in game adjustments. he had none. Allen made adjustments on the fly, especially at halftime. Dennis gets it. this is a game of adjustments. plus he actually got the secondary to almost stop committing fouls. browner had a game with zero. zero! that in itself was a huge adjustment.

Agreed about half time adjustments

The last game vs Falcons they scored zero points in the second half!

blackangold · 01-21-2016, 04:19 PM

The one big stat I like was the difference in penalties.

Everything else really isn't going to be fair as Allen was thrown in to a bad situation with a bad scheme.

This upcoming year will be his first true test.

I would be more interested to see how he did as a DC with Denver, if anyone cares to look that up...

|Mitch| · 01-21-2016, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I would be more interested to see how he did as a DC with Denver, if anyone cares to look that up...

Here's the 2011 Bronco defensive stats by game

2011 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

We just need a Von Miller type who gets 11.5 sacks for Allen this year

spkb25 · 01-21-2016, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Here's the 2011 Bronco defensive stats by game

2011 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

We just need a Von Miller type who gets 11.5 sacks for Allen this year

yeah n with teabag as qb. that defense held them in games

blackangold · 01-21-2016, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Here's the 2011 Bronco defensive stats by game

2011 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

We just need a Von Miller type who gets 11.5 sacks for Allen this year

Jordan in double digits for the last 2 years...

Get him some decent DE on the other side and he'll get 15 sacks a year.

01-21-2016, 01:49 PM	#1
jjasso007 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 187	Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints' defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator - Black and Gold So....?

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator You can't really make anything out of it because you also have to weigh in the opponents as well. SloMotion likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator SCORING Ryan: 31.5 ppg Allen: 26.8 ppg TOTAL YARDS Ryan: 424.3 ypg Allen: 395.3 ypg YARDS PER PLAY Ryan: 6.7 Allen: 6.6 RUSHING YARDS Ryan: 131.2 ypg Allen: 126.5 ypg YARDS PER CARRY Ryan: 4.9 ypc Allen: 4.9 ypc RUSHING TOUCHDOWNS Ryan: 7, 0.7 per game Allen: 5, 0.83 per game PASSING YARDS Ryan: 293.1 ypg Allen: 268.8 ypg COMPLETION PERCENTAGE Ryan: 66.7 percent Allen: 71.4 percent YARDS PER ATTEMPT Ryan: 8.4 Allen: 8.2 TOUCHDOWN PASSES Ryan: 28, 2.8 per game Allen: 17, 2.8 per game INTERCEPTIONS Ryan: 4, 1.1 percent of attempts Allen: 5, 2.6 percent of attempts SACKS Ryan: 22, 6.3 percent of attempts Allen: 9, 4.6 percent of attempts FIRST DOWNS Ryan: 23.6 per game Allen: 24 per game THIRD-DOWN CONVERSIONS Ryan: 34.8 percent Allen: 50.8 percent RED-ZONE PERCENTAGE Ryan: 60.5 percent Allen: 81.8 percent TURNOVERS FORCED Ryan: 13, 1.3 per game Allen: 9, 1.5 per game FIRST DOWNS BY PENALTY Ryan: 37, 3.7 per game Allen: 17, 2.8 per game I'm glad he's getting another shot this coming season

01-21-2016, 02:00 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator Originally Posted by Euphoria You can't really make anything out of it because you also have to weigh in the opponents as well. The division games seemed to signal the most, since both coordinators got a shot at each team. Playing those three teams again, the Saints improved against Tampa Bay, shut down the Falcons’ running game better than they had in the first meeting and started strong against Carolina even if the finish wasn’t what the Saints wanted.

01-21-2016, 04:08 PM	#5
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01-21-2016, 04:15 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator Originally Posted by hagan714 I am ignoring the stats. my biggest complaint about rob was in game adjustments. he had none. Allen made adjustments on the fly, especially at halftime. Dennis gets it. this is a game of adjustments. plus he actually got the secondary to almost stop committing fouls. browner had a game with zero. zero! that in itself was a huge adjustment. Agreed about half time adjustments The last game vs Falcons they scored zero points in the second half!

01-21-2016, 04:19 PM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator The one big stat I like was the difference in penalties. Everything else really isn't going to be fair as Allen was thrown in to a bad situation with a bad scheme. This upcoming year will be his first true test. I would be more interested to see how he did as a DC with Denver, if anyone cares to look that up...

01-21-2016, 05:01 PM	#8
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator Originally Posted by blackangold I would be more interested to see how he did as a DC with Denver, if anyone cares to look that up... Here's the 2011 Bronco defensive stats by game 2011 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players \| Pro-Football-Reference.com We just need a Von Miller type who gets 11.5 sacks for Allen this year Crusader and blackangold like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Here's the 2011 Bronco defensive stats by game 2011 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players \| Pro-Football-Reference.com We just need a Von Miller type who gets 11.5 sacks for Allen this year yeah n with teabag as qb. that defense held them in games

01-21-2016, 06:19 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Here's the 2011 Bronco defensive stats by game 2011 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players \| Pro-Football-Reference.com We just need a Von Miller type who gets 11.5 sacks for Allen this year Jordan in double digits for the last 2 years... Get him some decent DE on the other side and he'll get 15 sacks a year. jnormand, Crusader and ctsaint01 like this.

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