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Old 08-19-2016, 10:23 AM   #581
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Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Five on the bubble...

CB Keenan Lewis

NT John Jenkins

LB/DE Davis Tull

RB Marcus Murphy

WR Brandon Coleman
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:47 AM   #582
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Five on the bubble...

CB Keenan Lewis

NT John Jenkins

LB/DE Davis Tull

RB Marcus Murphy

WR Brandon Coleman
JP,
Here are my thoughts on the aforementioned players ...

I only see Tull as a possible cut. Has not been impressive at camp.
Murphy - resolve the fumbling issues & we have a legit threat on punts/kickoffs.
Coleman - inconsistent but he sticks @ the 4th WR.
Lewis - I have no idea but I hope he gets somewhat healthy again. Just don't rush back too soon.
Jenkins - contract year & with the recent Rankins injury, this could save JJ.
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:41 PM   #583
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And just like that, Keenan Lewis is gone...

Trouble goes back to last season's little outburst on social media about promises re: guaranteed money...

Actually surprised it took this long for his departure - just goes to show the leverage decent cornerbacks have in this league...

Wish Westbank all the happiness he can find, just not at the Saints' expense...
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JP,
Here are my thoughts on the aforementioned players ...

I only see Tull as a possible cut. Has not been impressive at camp.
Murphy - resolve the fumbling issues & we have a legit threat on punts/kickoffs.
Coleman - inconsistent but he sticks @ the 4th WR.
Lewis - I have no idea but I hope he gets somewhat healthy again. Just don't rush back too soon.
Jenkins - contract year & with the recent Rankins injury, this could save JJ.
Lewis - gone...

Jenkins - stay of execution with Rankins' injury, but Jenkins is done...

Tull - he's a pure 3-4 OLB, been out a year, and needs 3-4 coaching...

Speed Dial: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Washington, San Diego, San Francisco, maybe Denver; expect a 6th round pick...

Murphy - failures to protect the ball, Tommylee Lewis, Daniel Lasco; Murphy had better be spectacular the next two weeks...

Coleman - stone hands, slow development in route running, and inability to use strengths to shield pass path

Really hoped he could do something, but Coleman shrunk rather than seized opportunity this training camp and that could haunt you in big games on one play...

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Old 08-19-2016, 11:57 PM   #585
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Training Camp Post - Preseason Week 2, Westbank released

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 7 - Luke McCown

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - Sione Houma, 35 - Austin Johnson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet

WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 19 - Jake Lampmann

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Tony Hills, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 71 - Kaleb Eulls, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 62 - Cyril Lemon

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 73 - John Fullington, 74 - Tyrus Thompson

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Matt Shaughnessy

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 90 - Nick Fairley, 69 - C.J. Wilson, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - John Jenkins, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull

SLB (2) 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee, 50 - Stephone Anthony, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

LCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 49 - De’Vante Harris, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 37 - Brandon Dixon

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 26 - Trae Elston

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 42 - Jamal Golden

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 39 - Cortland Finnegan, 46 - Ken Crawley, 20 - Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth, 5 - Kai Forbath

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 46 - Chris Highland



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young



Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 40, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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Old 08-20-2016, 12:46 AM   #586
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What to do with CB Keenan Lewis?

A potentially ugly battle looms with Westbank and agent as Lewis has stated, publically, he doesn't want to go to Injured Reserve - yet he's unable to play, perform...

Lewis might be seen as an obvious candidate to go on IR, then return mid-season once his groin injury sufficiently recovered...

The knee injury suffered by Hau'oli Kikaha has been considered by most reports to be a season-ending injury (if not worse); still, the Saints have been playing a little gamemanship with his PUP roster designation...

Now with the development of the Sheldon Rankins lower leg fracture, likely back in approximately eight weeks, there will now be pressure to decide now on a plan for whether to keep a roster spot for Keenan Lewis...

Then there's the outstanding development, discovery of not one, but two rookie undrafted free agents in Da'Vante Harris and Ken Crawley...

Nevermind the fortunate late free agent bounce by recent signee Cortland Finnegan who's making a late serious push to make the roster as well...

Can you hear the Eagles' Heartache Tonight playing right now?

Might it not be nothing but an utter failure on the part of the front office not to recover some value by trading a cornerback, or two, before roster cuts?

This is getting real good...

Saints fans, we have a defensive coordinator!

Had my own doubts, but this guy is taking charge and putting his guys and his mark on this defense...

Have a newfound respect for DA, already he's better than anyone we've had in the Payton era...

Now the question is "can he produce results?" Stay tuned...
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Training Camp Preseason Week 2, Post Game 53 man roster prediction

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 7 - Luke McCown

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 34 - Tim Hightower

WR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson

DT (3) 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

WDE (3) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

LCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 46 - Ken Crawley, 27 - Damian Swann

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 49 - De’Vante Harris, 39 - Cortland Finnegan


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young



Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 23, Defense - 27, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53

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Old 08-21-2016, 10:21 PM   #589
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Emergence of P.J. Williams and mature play of Da'Vante Harris and Ken Crawley makes Damian Swann looks tradeable; Garrett Griffin has made Luke McCown tradeable...and our needs are interior offensive linemen...hmm
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Old 08-22-2016, 05:08 AM   #590
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(excerpt from Key NFL dates for 2016-17: Roster cutdowns to 53 players is Sept. 3 - CBSSports.com)

Aug. 30: Prior to 4 p.m. ET, clubs must reduce their rosters to a maximum of 75 players on the Active List.

Sept. 1: Final Preseason Games.

Sept. 3: Prior to 4 p.m. ET, clubs must reduce rosters to a maximum of 53 players on the Active/Inactive List.

Sept. 3: Simultaneously with the cut-down to 53, clubs that have players in the categories of Active/Physically Unable to Perform or Active/Non-Football Injury or Illness must select one of the following options: place player on Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform or Reserve/Non-Football Injury or Illness, whichever is applicable; request waivers; terminate contract; trade contract; or continue to count the player on the Active List.

Sept. 4: Claiming period for players placed on waivers at the final roster reduction will expire at noon ET.

Sept. 4: Upon receipt of the Personnel Notice at approximately 1 p.m. ET, clubs may establish a Practice Squad of 10 players. No club, including the player's prior club, will be permitted to sign a player to a Practice Player Contract until all clubs have received simultaneous notification via the above Personnel Notice that such player's prior NFL player contract has been terminated via the waiver system.

Sept. 5-9: In accordance with the 2016 Personnel (Injury) Report Policy, each club is required to file a Practice Report with its conference communications contact by 4 p.m. ET, (or as soon as possible after the completion of practice) every Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for a regular season Saturday or Sunday game; Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday for a Thursday game; or Thursday, Friday, and Saturday for a Monday game.

Sept. 5-9: Each club must also file a weekly regular season Game Status Report with its conference communications contact by 4 p.m. ET (or as soon as possible after the completion of practice) on Wednesday for a Thursday game, Friday for a Saturday or Sunday game, and Saturday for a Monday game. An update must be reported if there is any change in a player's condition after the initial Game Status Report is filed.
Sept. 8: At noon ET, the Top 51 Rule expires for all NFL clubs.

Sept. 8, 11-12: Regular Season opens.

Oct. 2: NFL International Series, Indianapolis Colts vs. Jacksonville Jaguars, London, England

Mid-October: Beginning on the sixth calendar day prior to a club's seventh regular season game (including any bye week) and continuing through the day after the conclusion of the 11th regular season weekend, clubs are permitted to begin practicing players on Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform and Reserve/Non-Football Injury or Illness for a period not to exceed 21 days. Players may be activated during the 21-day practice period, or prior to 4 p.m. ET, on the day after the conclusion of the 21-day period, provided that no player may be activated to participate in a Week 6 game.

Mid-October: At any time after six weeks have elapsed since a player was placed on Reserve/Injured or Reserve/Non-Football Injury/Illness, each club is permitted to designate one player for return from either list to the club's 53-player Active/Inactive List.

The player who is "Designated For Return" must have suffered a major football-related or non-football-related injury after reporting to training camp and must have been placed on the applicable Reserve List after 4 p.m. ET, on the day after the final roster reduction.

A player whom the club wishes to designate for return is permitted to return to practice for a period not to exceed 21 days. The club is required to notify the League office that the player has been "Designated For Return" on the first day the player begins to practice. The player cannot be returned to the Active/Inactive List until eight weeks have elapsed since the date he was placed on Reserve.


Oct. 18-19: Fall League Meeting, Houston, Texas.

Oct. 23: NFL International Series, New York Giants vs. Los Angeles Rams, London, England.

Oct. 30: NFL International Series, Washington Redskins vs. Cincinnati Bengals, London, England.

Nov. 1: All trading ends for 2016 at 4 p.m. ET

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