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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Still wish we went OG instead of RB late as UDFA RBs seem to fall off trees for us. Other than that I am pumped. The Safety seemed especially versatile. Hope I'm right. We ***** about Brees contract but Byrd ...

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Old 05-01-2016, 02:33 PM   #1
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I think we had a good one finally. Maybe even on par with last year

Still wish we went OG instead of RB late as UDFA RBs seem to fall off trees for us. Other than that I am pumped. The Safety seemed especially versatile. Hope I'm right. We ***** about Brees contract but Byrd has had one, ONE forced turnover since we signed him at 46 mil. Maybe with help up front he can do his job
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I love this draft.

Best DT
Best FS
One of the best "big" WR.
Best player in Canada and physical freak of nature
Cal's MVP, even over Goff. Injury plagued 2015 dropped him several rounds. Was still projected as a 4th

UDFA... we addressed OG with 4 or 5 prospects that had mid round grades.

Dayum I love this draft!!!
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You can add PJ Williams and Davis Tull to this class as well, they essentially will be rookies.

Should be an interesting training camp and pre-season.

We need to pay more attention to pre-season games, over the last 4 years they have been very indicative of how the team performs. Brees also needs to play the normal snaps.

2013 preseason- Defense came out hot and surprised many people
2013 season- Defense ranked number 4.

2014/2015 preseason- Defense sucked in the preseason lacked passion and energy. Offense was inconsistent because Brees was very limited.
2014/2015 season- Defense ranked last or next to last. Offense took mulitiple games to start firing on all cylinders.
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Old 05-01-2016, 03:30 PM   #4
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You can add PJ Williams and Davis Tull to this class as well, they essentially will be rookies.

Should be an interesting training camp and pre-season.

We need to pay more attention to pre-season games, over the last 4 years they have been very indicative of how the team performs. Brees also needs to play the normal snaps.

2013 preseason- Defense came out hot and surprised many people
2013 season- Defense ranked number 4.

2014/2015 preseason- Defense sucked in the preseason lacked passion and energy. Offense was inconsistent because Brees was very limited.
2014/2015 season- Defense ranked last or next to last. Offense took mulitiple games to start firing on all cylinders.
Not entirely correct on the preseason front.

I travelled from the UK to the Saints vs Patriots preseason game and we completely shut down Tom Brady with aggressive play from the cornerbacks

I'm pretty sure he finished 1 for 5, 6 yards passing.
In 2012 we intercepted the Cardinals on their very first play from scrimmage and shut them down the whole game, we all know how 2012 played out defensively.

Preseason can be misleading, in 2013 Keenan Lewis had a terrible....I mean TERRIBLE preseason and many were calling for his head, then he locked down receivers all year.
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Re: I think we had a good one finally. Maybe even on par with last year

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Still wish we went OG instead of RB late as UDFA RBs seem to fall off trees for us. Other than that I am pumped. The Safety seemed especially versatile. Hope I'm right. We ***** about Brees contract but Byrd has had one, ONE forced turnover since we signed him at 46 mil. Maybe with help up front he can do his job
I am still waiting for another happy finish... one was not enough!
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This draft has Ireland's finger prints all over it. He seems to have "the eye for defense" that Payton has for offense. We also nailed this UDFA class. As usual.

Who knows we may even have some decent depth if a starter goes down?
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Way too early. Even for last years draft class. 3-4 years down the road we'll see how good or bad this draft class is. Key factor: coaching.
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Way too early. Even for last years draft class. 3-4 years down the road we'll see how good or bad this draft class is. Key factor: coaching.
Agree with everything except key factor being coaching.

I think coaching at the NFL level is fairly even from top to bottom.

I think 90% of NFL success is talent, work ethic, attitude, durability, IQ, etc...

I'd say maybe 10% of a players success or failure is due to coaching.
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Agree with everything except key factor being coaching.

I think coaching at the NFL level is fairly even from top to bottom.

I think 90% of NFL success is talent, work ethic, attitude, durability, IQ, etc...

I'd say maybe 10% of a players success or failure is due to coaching.
Seriously? Bruce Arians vs Chuck Pagano, Sean Payton vs Mike Smith...

Why do some players thrive with some coaches, tank with a new coach, sign a FA contract with old coach and have comeback player of the year type seasons?!?

Coaches have every bit to do with the success of a team as a player taking care of his health, having a good work ethic and keeping a positive mental attitude...
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This draft isn't even close to last year's draft...but it takes a couple of years to really let things shake out...

Too much trading up with talent still in the field at need positions...
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