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Old 09-19-2016, 01:44 AM   #401
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failclowns beat a raiders team by 1 more pt than we did and their D stopped thier offence from making 7 pts more than we did. Either their team is better than we are on both sides of the ball or OAK wasnt that good.
If either is true, well thats sad. OAK defense might even be worse than ours.
Saints D didnt show up last week, but decided to show up this week. Could be 1st game jitters or just inconsistent like its been since 2007.
Still no points with so many turnovers ? Amazingly bad.
Offence could not get started because of dropped passes, penalties, and probably a bad offensive calling. Some of Brees's passes were a little to hard to catch and/or the WR's are not good enouph yet to look for it.
Cadet is a major disappointment, and letting go a pro ball RB spiller who I think would have caught those balls was probably a mistake. Might of had to get rid of him because of CAP, but thats sad mismanagement if we have no one else to cover his skill set, and we dont. Its rumored NE might be looking a spiller. Im betting he would work out there fine or might be going to Vikes, see as AP was hurt.
SP's time management has seemed a problem in both games. Like hes not paying attention.
Another year of 0-2 is showing a pattern.
Special teams have been bad in both games and the FG block cost us the game.
Looks like Brees is breaking in his optimism.
Lost 2 games that could have been won with more discipline, less mistakes, and doing your job.Both very close but the other team wanted to win more than our boys did. Seems to be a losing culture with excuses or lazy culture has somehow formed.
Not sure its true or what to do about it.
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Old 09-19-2016, 06:58 AM   #402
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failclowns beat a raiders team by 1 more pt than we did and their D stopped thier offence from making 7 pts more than we did. Either their team is better than we are on both sides of the ball or OAK wasnt that good.
If either is true, well thats sad. OAK defense might even be worse than ours.
Saints D didnt show up last week, but decided to show up this week. Could be 1st game jitters or just inconsistent like its been since 2007.
Still no points with so many turnovers ? Amazingly bad.
Offence could not get started because of dropped passes, penalties, and probably a bad offensive calling. Some of Brees's passes were a little to hard to catch and/or the WR's are not good enouph yet to look for it.
Cadet is a major disappointment, and letting go a pro ball RB spiller who I think would have caught those balls was probably a mistake. Might of had to get rid of him because of CAP, but thats sad mismanagement if we have no one else to cover his skill set, and we dont. Its rumored NE might be looking a spiller. Im betting he would work out there fine or might be going to Vikes, see as AP was hurt.
SP's time management has seemed a problem in both games. Like hes not paying attention.
Another year of 0-2 is showing a pattern.
Special teams have been bad in both games and the FG block cost us the game.
Looks like Brees is breaking in his optimism.
Lost 2 games that could have been won with more discipline, less mistakes, and doing your job.Both very close but the other team wanted to win more than our boys did. Seems to be a losing culture with excuses or lazy culture has somehow formed.
Not sure its true or what to do about it.
That's the difference between us and the patriots, they are well coached.

They have played 2 games without their HOF QB and possibly the best TE in the league, however they stick to their fundamentals and they find ways to win.

We commit stupid penalties, drop passes and find ways to lose.

Put Brandon Coleman and Fleener on their team, they would either become all pros or be cut before regular season started.

The patriots would not pay 36 million for coby fleener and they wouldn't release CJ spiller two years into a contract.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:39 AM   #403
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When it comes to Fleener isn't it funny how as fans we always think we know better? That signing was trashed by almost everyone in the media but we thought they were so wrong. Here's just a sample from WalterFootball:

Saints sign TE Coby Fleener (5 years, $36 million): KIELBASA SLIPS THROUGH THE FINGERS MILLEN Grade
I wonder how it feels to be a Colts fan right now. On one hand, they must be very depressed that they still have the incompetent Ryan Grigson running things. On the other hand, they have to be cracking up upon seeing the numbers Coby Fleener received from the Saints.

This signing is horrible. Aside from perhaps Vernon Davis, no tight end drops more passes than Coby Fleener. I'm sure he'll post some great numbers with Drew Brees throwing the ball to him, but he'll absolutely kill his new team with some untimely drops. Then again, maybe he won't be a fantasy monster, given that he couldn't produce with Andrew Luck, even when Dwayne Allen was out of the lineup with his injury issues.

This is an easy Millen. I don't understand what the Saints saw in him to make them believe that he's worth more than $7 million per year. Fleener, an average starter at best, would've been overpaid had he gotten half as much.

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Old 09-19-2016, 08:42 AM   #404
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When it comes to Fleener isn't it funny how as fans we always think we know better? That signing was trashed by almost everyone in the media but we thought they were so wrong. Here's just a sample from WalterFootball:

Saints sign TE Coby Fleener (5 years, $36 million): KIELBASA SLIPS THROUGH THE FINGERS MILLEN Grade
I wonder how it feels to be a Colts fan right now. On one hand, they must be very depressed that they still have the incompetent Ryan Grigson running things. On the other hand, they have to be cracking up upon seeing the numbers Coby Fleener received from the Saints.

This signing is horrible. Aside from perhaps Vernon Davis, no tight end drops more passes than Coby Fleener. I'm sure he'll post some great numbers with Drew Brees throwing the ball to him, but he'll absolutely kill his new team with some untimely drops. Then again, maybe he won't be a fantasy monster, given that he couldn't produce with Andrew Luck, even when Dwayne Allen was out of the lineup with his injury issues.

This is an easy Millen. I don't understand what the Saints saw in him to make them believe that he's worth more than $7 million per year. Fleener, an average starter at best, would've been overpaid had he gotten half as much.
This is the one signing that I actually want us to cut his contract earlier, bring spiller back and cut Fleener and Cadet.
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Reports just out
No spine injury to Williams
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Reports just out
No spine injury to Williams


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Fleener looked super confused yesterday.

I remember Moose Johnson calling him out on a route & dropped pass yesterday.
He has serious work to do as does Brandon Coleman.
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Old 09-19-2016, 12:46 PM   #409
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I like that Vonn Bell got some decent playing time, word on him was he wasn't a great tackler but I saw him come flying down and knock back the ball carrier.
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Old 09-19-2016, 12:57 PM   #410
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I like that Vonn Bell got some decent playing time, word on him was he wasn't a great tackler but I saw him come flying down and knock back the ball carrier.
Notice how that seemed to light a fire under Byrd's a$$ as well?! That was easily the best I've seen Byrd look since he's been here. If that's what it takes then by God keep the 3 safety looks!
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