Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread

Puddinhead · 03-16-2005, 11:31 AM

They are working on the long term deal to be able to trade him. That protects Dallas. If they trade for him without the deal, he becomes their 7.8 million dollar problem, and not ours. If it\'s not done by 3pm today, any team that trades for him before July 15 runs the risk of being stuck with his current 7.8 million dollar one year deal, and the HOPE they can get a long term deal done.

As many have probably said, as far as a team looking to acquire Howard in a trade would be concerned, next Wednesday is the same as this one. The 3pm \"deadline\" is meaningless. While the Saints would be unable to negotiate with Howard until July15 for a long-term contract for him to stay here, no such restriction will be in place for a team seeking to acquire him. Dallas, for example, would still be able to hammer out a new deal with Howard before committing to a trade. So, tradewise, the \"deadline\" is anything but.

o1higuy · 03-16-2005, 12:19 PM

Saw this on another message board so it is just rumor.

Don\'t shoot the messenger!!
I have no way of checking the facts, but
at both the NO and D newspaper leak forums, they are both mentioning
that DAT is back on the table and went as far as to say that DAT is on his way to NO for a physical.
The rumor is now that it will be DAT and a 2nd this year.
Dallas will use one of there 1st rounders to trade down to get a 2nd and 3rd round pick and focus on getting a Bigger sized MLB.
IF this is true, and I hope it is.....
I think that it would be fair to both sides. Dallas would still have there 2 1st rounders to get what they want and get a proven pass rushing, QB intimidating DE that they have not had since the 90s. NO will get a proven run stopper(albeit small), who has the vision of a true MLB and a great on the field play caller and leader and have 2 2nd rounders to scoop up some of those BPA guys who slip into the 2nd round.
Then with our 1st rounder we can get a shut down corner.

baronm · 03-16-2005, 12:36 PM

Stefon LeFors from Louisville. Would be good to be in a dome. He runs in the 4.5 range, great insticts, very accurate. If he was an inch taller and a little more accurate, he would be a top rated QB. He is kind of overlooked.

this is what kiper had to say and we were scouting him...a late second or ealry third wouln\'t be a bad pickup

turbo_dog · 03-16-2005, 12:43 PM

:rockon: :band2.sml:

[Edited on 16/3/2005 by turbo_dog]

baronm · 03-16-2005, 12:46 PM

whatever---maybe that\'s too high for a qb not named frye, smith or rogers..but you don\'t gotta be rude.

Euphoria · 03-16-2005, 01:13 PM

UGH... this is thread is starting to be a repeat of mondays!

3pm Deadline was for Howard to sign the damn franchise tender which he signed on Monday! He is a 7.8 million dollar hit in this years pot. If he didn\'t sign the deadline would make him a RFA any team signing him by the rules would forfeit 2 first round draft picks to the Saints for signing a marked player unles the Saints and said team worked out a deal. THe Saints can trade him at anytime now... they just can\'t negociate a long term deal until July 15th. Now this is important... if the Saints work a trade including Howard that team has 24 hours to negociate a long term deal with HOWARD or they can pass on the trade or take him on despite a long-term contract.

[Edited on 16/3/2005 by Euphoria]

turbo_dog · 03-16-2005, 05:52 PM

whatever---maybe that\'s too high for a qb not named frye, smith or rogers..but you don\'t gotta be rude.

Baron, I was agreeing with you about Lefors. You can check back and you will see that I\'ve posted my fondness for his ability several times.

I just used that sign because you\'re post seemed so completely out of place that it struck me as strange, and I\'ve wanted to use it for a long time. Looking again, I guess it does seem rude, so I\'ll edit it.

spkb25 · 03-16-2005, 06:02 PM

if we get a second for howard im happy. if we get that and dat im excited. if we keep him and we can still pay other players im ok. but would prefer to trade the guy only because he can get rid of some cap room and get us some picks

03-16-2005, 11:31 AM	#11
Puddinhead 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 102	Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread They are working on the long term deal to be able to trade him. That protects Dallas. If they trade for him without the deal, he becomes their 7.8 million dollar problem, and not ours. If it\'s not done by 3pm today, any team that trades for him before July 15 runs the risk of being stuck with his current 7.8 million dollar one year deal, and the HOPE they can get a long term deal done. As many have probably said, as far as a team looking to acquire Howard in a trade would be concerned, next Wednesday is the same as this one. The 3pm \"deadline\" is meaningless. While the Saints would be unable to negotiate with Howard until July15 for a long-term contract for him to stay here, no such restriction will be in place for a team seeking to acquire him. Dallas, for example, would still be able to hammer out a new deal with Howard before committing to a trade. So, tradewise, the \"deadline\" is anything but.
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03-16-2005, 12:19 PM	#12
o1higuy 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 189	Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread Saw this on another message board so it is just rumor. Don\'t shoot the messenger!! I have no way of checking the facts, but at both the NO and D newspaper leak forums, they are both mentioning that DAT is back on the table and went as far as to say that DAT is on his way to NO for a physical. The rumor is now that it will be DAT and a 2nd this year. Dallas will use one of there 1st rounders to trade down to get a 2nd and 3rd round pick and focus on getting a Bigger sized MLB. IF this is true, and I hope it is..... I think that it would be fair to both sides. Dallas would still have there 2 1st rounders to get what they want and get a proven pass rushing, QB intimidating DE that they have not had since the 90s. NO will get a proven run stopper(albeit small), who has the vision of a true MLB and a great on the field play caller and leader and have 2 2nd rounders to scoop up some of those BPA guys who slip into the 2nd round. Then with our 1st rounder we can get a shut down corner.
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03-16-2005, 12:36 PM	#13
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread Stefon LeFors from Louisville. Would be good to be in a dome. He runs in the 4.5 range, great insticts, very accurate. If he was an inch taller and a little more accurate, he would be a top rated QB. He is kind of overlooked. this is what kiper had to say and we were scouting him...a late second or ealry third wouln\'t be a bad pickup
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03-16-2005, 12:43 PM	#14
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03-16-2005, 12:46 PM	#15
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread whatever---maybe that\'s too high for a qb not named frye, smith or rogers..but you don\'t gotta be rude.
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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread UGH... this is thread is starting to be a repeat of mondays! 3pm Deadline was for Howard to sign the damn franchise tender which he signed on Monday! He is a 7.8 million dollar hit in this years pot. If he didn\'t sign the deadline would make him a RFA any team signing him by the rules would forfeit 2 first round draft picks to the Saints for signing a marked player unles the Saints and said team worked out a deal. THe Saints can trade him at anytime now... they just can\'t negociate a long term deal until July 15th. Now this is important... if the Saints work a trade including Howard that team has 24 hours to negociate a long term deal with HOWARD or they can pass on the trade or take him on despite a long-term contract. [Edited on 16/3/2005 by Euphoria]
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03-16-2005, 05:52 PM	#17
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,541	Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread whatever---maybe that\'s too high for a qb not named frye, smith or rogers..but you don\'t gotta be rude. Baron, I was agreeing with you about Lefors. You can check back and you will see that I\'ve posted my fondness for his ability several times. I just used that sign because you\'re post seemed so completely out of place that it struck me as strange, and I\'ve wanted to use it for a long time. Looking again, I guess it does seem rude, so I\'ll edit it.

03-16-2005, 06:02 PM	#18
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread if we get a second for howard im happy. if we get that and dat im excited. if we keep him and we can still pay other players im ok. but would prefer to trade the guy only because he can get rid of some cap room and get us some picks