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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; My only concerns is that Brees holds all the cards. He can demand 25ml a year or walk. He is at an age were you dont want to be giving out 3/4 year deals to work the cap. I do ...

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Old 03-20-2017, 08:27 AM   #31
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My only concerns is that Brees holds all the cards.

He can demand 25ml a year or walk. He is at an age were you dont want to be giving out 3/4 year deals to work the cap.

I do think a plan B needs to be in place soon. Get some leverage back and an option there in case father time catches up (and he does overnight),cap reasons or if we are a year or two away and he wont/cant wait
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:51 AM   #32
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May not be an option for long, Daniel is visiting the Jets today:

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Old 03-20-2017, 09:20 AM   #33
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My only concerns is that Brees holds all the cards.

He can demand 25ml a year or walk. He is at an age were you dont want to be giving out 3/4 year deals to work the cap.

I do think a plan B needs to be in place soon. Get some leverage back and an option there in case father time catches up (and he does overnight),cap reasons or if we are a year or two away and he wont/cant wait
I honestly believe him when he says he feels he can continue to play at a high level well into his forties. I would be shocked if he wanted to retire for at least the next three years. He wants another shot at the Super Bowls with the Saints. That is clear. At his point of his career he doesn't need to hold the Saints captive. With the cap climbing at an annual rate of 9-10% a figure of $25 million will be a bargain for a quality QB.

As for plan B, of course. There should always be a plan B. You should always be grooming a QB even if you don't end up keeping them.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:23 AM   #34
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My only concerns is that Brees holds all the cards.
And how is that different than any other day in the last 11 years?

He can demand 25ml a year or walk. He is at an age were you dont want to be giving out 3/4 year deals to work the cap.
How is this a problem? Not creating cap nightmares seems to be aligned between Brees and the team. Last year Brees could have asked for 3 years, $75 million, all guaranteed and likely would have got it. Then he could have played two years, retired, and left the team holding the bag for the remainder. Instead they worked out something reasonable for two years where either side can walk away with no damage.

I just really do not understand why after always choosing a reasonable workable contract route in each of the opportunities that have come up, that anyone would think that Brees either wants to leave, or to screw the team.

BTW $25 million is quickly becoming average QB money in today's cap environment, which is approaching $160 million.

So two year contracts with automatic voids after a year is perfect for both sides.


I do think a plan B needs to be in place soon. Get some leverage back and an option there in case father time catches up (and he does overnight),cap reasons or if we are a year or two away and he wont/cant wait
A plan B always needs to be in place. But as I've said before with Brees, it's probably better to plan for a year too late as opposed to a year too early. It is likely that it'll be impossible to find anyone who will be as productive as Brees even at 39,40, or 41 years old. The only X-factor is injury, which no one can predict.

In any case, Brees leaving, whenever that happens, will be the end of an era in Saints history. The aftermath will be rebuilding whether or not it's with a rookie or a veteran bridge QB.

The man is literally irreplaceable. So it's a fool's errand losing sleep trying to do so.

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And how is that different than any other day in the last 11 years?

How is this a problem? Not creating cap nightmares seems to be aligned between Brees and the team. Last year Brees could have asked for 3 years, $75 million, all guaranteed and likely would have got it. Then he could have played two years, retired, and left the team holding the bag for the remainder. Instead they worked out something reasonable for two years where either side can walk away with no damage.

I just really do not understand why after always choosing a reasonable workable contract route in each of the opportunities that have come up, that anyone would think that Brees either wants to leave, or to screw the team.

BTW $25 million is quickly becoming average QB money in today's cap environment, which is approaching $160 million.

So two year contracts with automatic voids after a year is perfect for both sides.



A plan B always needs to be in place. But as I've said before with Brees, it's probably better to plan for a year too late as opposed to a year too early. It is likely that it'll be impossible to find anyone who will be as productive as Brees even at 39,40, or 41 years old. The only X-factor is injury, which no one can predict.

In any case, Brees leaving, whenever that happens, will be the end of an era in Saints history. The aftermath will be rebuilding whether or not it's with a rookie or a veteran bridge QB.

The man is literally irreplaceable. So it's a fool's errand losing sleep trying to do so.

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Old 03-20-2017, 12:31 PM   #36
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Chase or Luke?

To me, the obvious solution is a winner take all cage match.




Well, on second thought, Roger's probably got some sissified rule against death matches.

Another idea would be to let them battle it out in camp and pre-season. Let them both play behind the 1st string line and who ever plays better gets the job.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:19 PM   #37
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Chase or Luke?

To me, the obvious solution is a winner take all cage match.

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Well, on second thought, Roger's probably got some sissified rule against death matches.

Another idea would be to let them battle it out in camp and pre-season. Let them both play behind the 1st string line and who ever plays better gets the job.
And only one paycheck between'em. Winner take all!
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