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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Well this may seem naive and arrogant, but I'd think a TE like Fleener would have paid to play with Brees and that Loomis and Payton grossly overpaid for him... It's natural to compare TEs, and comparison to Graham are ...

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Old 05-28-2017, 06:33 PM   #21
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Re: ESPN: Coby Fleener more comfortable, hopes for better in Year 2 with Saints

Well this may seem naive and arrogant, but I'd think a TE like Fleener would have paid to play with Brees and that Loomis and Payton grossly overpaid for him...

It's natural to compare TEs, and comparison to Graham are inevitable considering all factors; however, my big criticism, aside from his mullet which I poke for fun, is his inability to convert the clutch catches...

The Saints' offense inconsistency to convert 3rd downs when needed despite its overall offensive numbers, is why this team failed last year because, let's face it, we knew the defense was not gonna hold up its end...

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I said it before, we lost games because of him.
But at the end of the day, it's a team game... Hell if we had a halfway decent defense, we wouldn't have to rely on the offense and half as much...

Just look at the 2009 season(if you were even following the Saints); Sharper and the rest of the defense were putting up so many defensive points 40+ burgers were pretty much the norm...
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In terms of pay, Fleener ranked at 10. Based on production, he was about equal to that. He is by no means Jimmy Dickens (Graham), but a lot of us (not you) are measuring Fleener against him. Jimmy is a freak of nature at this position.

I do agree, he isn't a bad player but he needs to step up in 2017.

Edit: here is the pay rank for TE contracts. https://overthecap.com/position/tight-end/
Rank 10th but on guarantees 2nd to no one.
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But at the end of the day, it's a team game... Hell if we had a halfway decent defense, we wouldn't have to rely on the offense and half as much...

Just look at the 2009 season(if you were even following the Saints); Sharper and the rest of the defense were putting up so many defensive points 40+ burgers were pretty much the norm...
And don't forget that beautiful turnover ratio!
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Good player. Not great. The Saints paid too much for him. Brees has made less talented receivers look good. Don't know why it didn't click last year. Surely year two has to be better.
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Re: ESPN: Coby Fleener more comfortable, hopes for better in Year 2 with Saints

Just go up and catch the seam routes. Tiny, ass Lance Moore and Brandin Cooks did that better than Fleener while here.
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Simple, Fleener has got to reduce the drops, especially those on third down...
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I have never seen someone with so little energy on a football field at any level. I don't have faith in him at all after watching him run lazy routes at training camp. My God he's a waste of space. We over paid again. I don't like to criticize people or players but this guy gets no lee way from me at all. I hope he improves but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Re: ESPN: Coby Fleener more comfortable, hopes for better in Year 2 with Saints

Fleener last year was a case study in failing to bring in an effective replacement when trading away an asset...

And then overpaying for what little the market had to offer in the way of the TE position that year...
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Although I'm not sure we could call Jimmy an asset at that point. I think we got better than we gave on that one. But still, it was a desperation move even though it did force Drew to look beyond the TE position.
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