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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; From Max's recap on SR... Its a recap of the UPN Saint's draft. Nothing earth shattering but a couple topics worth noting. The offense will now use a 2-Read, Safety-valve dump-off, then Run approach instead of the 4 read/dump/run they ...

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Old 04-29-2005, 02:57 PM   #1
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Schonert to use 2-Read/dump/run for AB

From Max's recap on SR...
Its a recap of the UPN Saint's draft. Nothing earth shattering but a couple topics worth noting.

The offense will now use a 2-Read, Safety-valve dump-off, then Run approach instead of the 4 read/dump/run they were previously using. I thought it was kinda interesting. Schonert said the 4-read/dump/run took too long and resulted in too many sacks.
Before anyone jumps on AB for this, Steve Young said they used the 2 check/dump/run approach also. As well as the Denver Broncos.

Also, Haz said Stinchcomb is gonna give Gandy a run for starting LT.
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Old 04-29-2005, 03:05 PM   #2
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Interesting... The Saints have said they will put the 2 best tackles on the field no matter who it was. I wouldn\'t mind seeing Stinch supplant Gandy... he definately has the size.

And whatever the 2 safety pump valve dump off that is , I hope it works well.
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Good post Danno.
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Nice find. If Stinch really is up there A) bye bye or pay cut Gandy B) no need to go T early next year in the draft so we can get a stud LB and C) he will no longer be counted as a wasted pick. I love it.

Also on the offense, not gonna knock AB, I just hope it works. Some of these changes are sounding good, or at least better than the old BS we used to hear.
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And whatever the 2 safety pump valve dump off that is , I hope it works well.
I know you\'re kidding but in case anyone else doesn\'t know,

1. There\'s now 2 primary downfield reads instead of four, presumably the WR\'s and/or a TE.
2. If those two are covered, dump off to a safety valve, typically a RB/FB/TE (please, no Gandy jokes).
3. If all that is covered, RUN like hell!
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This good news. Honestly ,I suspected that the brass was limiting AB from scrambling. Some would blame him for standing in the pocket too long, doing check downs. That isn\'t AB\'s game. I\'d like to see AB scramble more.

I think the knock on Stinch was simply strength, not size. I remember seeing him get trucked by LBs, thinking \"OMG. Make this boy a TE.\"
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Old 04-29-2005, 03:27 PM   #7
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Interesting -- It should really help AB put up better numbers -- I think he rarely used the 4 reads though -- lots of times he would try to thread the needle -- of course one could argue he did not have enough time to read all 4
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I\'ve never been a fan of over-complicating anything. Especially not NFL offenses and defenses.

As bad as our offensive line was last year, the 2-read/dumpoff/run approach would have been beneficial. It would have decreased the time the O-line had to pass block.

And since we\'re talking about dump-off passes here. With the addition of Mayberry and Jammal Brown, we should be able to run an effective screen-pass!!!! Without having defenders in our backfield!!

And by limiting the number of sacks (46 last year) we shouldn\'t be in a lot of 3rd and long situations. Oh, yeah ... and without all those false start penalties from Victor Riley.

It should be interesting to see our offense when they\'re in situations where the opposing defense don\'t know what they are going to run. It ain\'t exactly hard to figure out if its a run or a pass when you\'re 3rd and 15.

And anytime you\'re in 3rd and short, having a great offensive line and a great runningback come in very handy.







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Old 04-29-2005, 05:31 PM   #9
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Nice info Danno.

They seem to be adjusting to some of their tendencies to clutter up the offense. Toss the encyclopedia out and cut down on the reads....both seem like solid ideas. We were rarely getting past the 2nd read anyway
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off the topic...nice avatar whodi!!!!any other amac avatars, or am i gonna have to copy yours? LOL!
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