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Worse than death?? PSU

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Old 07-23-2012, 11:30 AM   #1
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Jaw dropping.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:34 AM   #2
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:15 PM   #3
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Really dig that they vacated the wins for all the years PSU admins knew about the abuse.
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:37 PM   #4
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This move is very Goodell-ish.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:17 PM   #5
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This move is very Goodell-ish.
Actually to be fair, it's kind of NOT like Goodell at all...this penalty is pretty thorough and well thought-through, with mountains of ironclad court-worthy evidence to back it up, and it considers all aspects of the situation, including not harming the individual players and seeking to positively change the institutional culture at Penn State where this despicable Sandusky stuff occurred. They're not just looking to wantonly throw the hammer down hard, to make an example and to prove his authority, in the hopes that "this will never happen again" which is basically what Goodell did with Bountygate.

Whereas in contrast to this, Goodell's punishments were kind of wild and arbitrary, and seemed to be aimed at targeting specific people that he had previous beefs with (Hargrove, Vilma, Smith, Payton, Loomis, Fujita) while completely ignoring others of the presumed guilty. See also: the NCAA waited until the report was done, then released THE ENTIRE REPORT publicly, then evaluated and formed their opinions on the sanctions and crafted the punishments. Goodell did quite the opposite -- arrive at his bounty conclusion based on heresay, conduct the investigation that supports his conclusion, then handed down punishments, then NOT release the evidence to back it up.

The part that was the most Goodell-ish I thought was vacating the wins. That's just for spite, to get Paterno's name out of the record books. Not that I disapprove of it.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:05 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by papz View Post
This move is very Goodell-ish.
Goodell today is probably saying "Sheeeooot. Vacating wins? Why didn't I think of that?"
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:58 PM   #7
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:19 AM   #8
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Should've received Death Penalty for Ten Years...Stricken from Record Books...Silence or diding a crime of that type is inexcusable...
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:16 PM   #10
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Penn State sanctions were hastily reached by NCAA's Mark Emmert and are anybody's guess - Yahoo! Sports

NCAA really drilled them. I don't really understand the vacated wins, but think the rest is warranted.


edit- sorry, that story doesn't list the death penalty punishments--looking now
... the wins were vacated so they could remove Paterno as the all-time 'winningest' NCAA coach of record,eh?

This was a tough vote and I voted 'death penalty' because I just wanted to see a clean break with this thing ... get rid of the program & the people in it, take down the statue & put it in the corner of a warehouse somewhere with a sheet over it, come back a few years later with new-style uniforms and start anew ... they'd have lost plenty of money, scholarships, bowl appearances, et.. that way too ...

... not that I disagree with what the NCAA handed down, it's a severe penalty that will impact PSU for years and was really creative in that, other then allowing them to field a team, was basically a 'death' penalty (minus the 'death' part), ... I do have to hand it to them for thinking about the players & the rest of PSU that wasn't directly involved and how they would be negatively impacted by a total loss of the football program.

This is a sad chapter in Penn State history ... my uncle went there & played for JoePa', so did a neighbor's kid ... <sigh>.
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