saintfan

Ok, so, I'm just going to stop adding to this thread. If you think the law is racist, please explain why - you aren't the only one who either feels that way or feels the need to use the term 'racist' with regards to illegal immigration.

If you'd like to explain I'd love to have the discussion, otherwise this isn't going to have a very happy ending me thinks. LOL

strato

The continuation is in the chatbox...lol

saintsfan1976

strato

TMW

saintfan

I am amazed at the number of people I've talked with on this issue that aren't aware of...well...a lot of things. A point I've made lately that seems to at least register with the anti-AZ crowd is this:

The United States is very popular - duh. No matter how much mud the rest of the world slings in our direction they want in - and they'll break laws and risk their lives attempting to cross oceans in tiny little boats to get here. In recognition of this, The United States put quotas in place, on a per country basis, such that only so many people from a given country will be allowed in legally in a given time frame. The backlog is decades long in some cases. Why is it then that America should simply turn its back on the Mexican border? Why should we grant amnesty to 11 million + people that broke the rules? Are those mexicans, no matter how honest or hard-working they may be, any more deserving than the guy in Zimbabwe who also wants a better life for his family? Would we be able to allow more people in, legally, from all over the world, if we managed to somehow stop the annual millions from streaming into the country illegally across our southern border?

Well, the answer is, obviously, yes, or at least maybe. Fair is fair, and the law is the law, and the people in Arizona have EVERY RIGHT to protect their border, just as those in Texas and California SHOULD be protecting theirs, as is written BY LAW, Federally.

All this nonsense - and all these people getting all hot and bothered and up in arms about the law in Arizona is a bunch of hogwash and political posturing for the legal Mexican vote. It IS that simple.

Oh, and I can assure every one of you, if the Canadians were breaching our Northern borders at the rate the Mexicans are breaching our southern border, those northern states would be pressing for enforcement of the Federal Law and passing laws of their own just like Arizona - and no one here or anywhere else would be calling them racist.

C'mon Man...

strato

Again its racial profiling...very simple to understand...and i dont have to type ten paragraphs to say those few words...but us arguing it wont change any aspect of this issue...i am done..

saintfan

I know we've discussed it, but you need to provide some examples. HOW is it racial profiling? Providing examples of personal experience or of racial profiling in general isn't sufficient to show the AZ law (or the federal one for that matter) as racial profiling.

Again, the AZ law does not extend as far as the Federal law, which would have been struck down by the supreme court long ago had it been deemed racial profiling.

Securing our borders and deporting people in this country illegally isn't racial profiling.

strato

SF you know how i feel and you were in agreement for the most par tin chat the other nite..lets let it ride ..training camp is getting close..

saintfan

I agree it is a problem Strato, but I do NOT agree that something shouldn't be done, and I absolutely 100% with emphasis do NOT agree that the AZ law is racist. And the more I think about it the more I think another round of amnesty would be a huge mistake.

But yes, training camp is coming...thank God!

What we need here is a political forum. LOL

saintsfan1976

If you're breaking a law it's criminal - not racial.