Birthers

ScottF · 07-23-2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Why our politicians can't interact with one another similarly hacks me off. I mean, I know why. I get the reasoning behind why they do what they do. The ONE thing I'd like from my government is to regulate the politicians, because if you do that, 70 percent of your problems go away overnight.

This is the crux of everything that is wrong with our current government.

Once elected they look at opposing party members as lepers. No bi-partisan work gets done, and if a bill does get through to a vote, it rarely passes unless there is a true majority, or there is some compromise where the other party adds two three items in exchange for the vote.

Sad that the 11th hours negotiations are as close to compromise and unity that our can accomplish. Can you imagine a Fortune 500 company being successful if everyone only agreed on their individual ideas?

saintfan · 07-23-2012, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

This is the crux of everything that is wrong with our current government.

Once elected they look at opposing party members as lepers. No bi-partisan work gets done, and if a bill does get through to a vote, it rarely passes unless there is a true majority, or there is some compromise where the other party adds two three items in exchange for the vote.

Sad that the 11th hours negotiations are as close to compromise and unity that our can accomplish. Can you imagine a Fortune 500 company being successful if everyone only agreed on their individual ideas?

It's truly scary, what things in Washington have become. Our nation is more diverse than ever, and that is a contributing factor, but those politicians aren't there to serve anything other than their own backsides. It's maddening.

We need a leader. Not a good marketer. Not a good speech writer. Not a guy that looks good on TV. We are desperate for one. Where is he/she?

SloMotion · 07-23-2012, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Why our politicians can't interact with one another similarly hacks me off. I mean, I know why. I get the reasoning behind why they do what they do. The ONE thing I'd like from my government is to regulate the politicians, because if you do that, 70 percent of your problems go away overnight.

... that pretty much sums it up for me & I especially like the 'regulate politicians' viewpoint ... some kind of term-limits would work wonders at unclogging the log jam you see daily in Congress ... serve your country to the best of your ability, then go home! ... they make the military retire after 20yrs, why not Senators or Representatives?

jcp026 · 07-23-2012, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... that pretty much sums it up for me & I especially like the 'regulate politicians' viewpoint ... some kind of term-limits would work wonders at unclogging the log jam you see daily in Congress ... serve your country to the best of your ability, then go home! ... they make the military retire after 20yrs, why not Senators or Representatives?

I don't disagree, but I think term limits for members of congress were deemed unconstitutional a while back. A system of publicly financed campaigns would, hopefully, do wonders. A system that makes politicians and potential politicians dependent on the people. Also, in Australia, 96% of people show up at the poles. 96%! It's not magic; we know how they did it and we can do it too. We don't need "safe-seats" for our representatives, we need competition. Getting rid of gerrymandering is doable. We don't need red states, blue states, and red and blue districts. We need a purple country, where the best candidate with the best ideas wins the nomination and, hopefully, the election.

Halo · 07-24-2012, 05:01 PM

This birther thread has digressed into GOP vs. Demo name calling... it was about birthers guys.

Sadly, thread closed.

07-23-2012, 08:46 AM	#1
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by saintfan Why our politicians can't interact with one another similarly hacks me off. I mean, I know why. I get the reasoning behind why they do what they do. The ONE thing I'd like from my government is to regulate the politicians, because if you do that, 70 percent of your problems go away overnight. This is the crux of everything that is wrong with our current government. Once elected they look at opposing party members as lepers. No bi-partisan work gets done, and if a bill does get through to a vote, it rarely passes unless there is a true majority, or there is some compromise where the other party adds two three items in exchange for the vote. Sad that the 11th hours negotiations are as close to compromise and unity that our can accomplish. Can you imagine a Fortune 500 company being successful if everyone only agreed on their individual ideas?

07-23-2012, 10:58 AM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by ScottF This is the crux of everything that is wrong with our current government. Once elected they look at opposing party members as lepers. No bi-partisan work gets done, and if a bill does get through to a vote, it rarely passes unless there is a true majority, or there is some compromise where the other party adds two three items in exchange for the vote. Sad that the 11th hours negotiations are as close to compromise and unity that our can accomplish. Can you imagine a Fortune 500 company being successful if everyone only agreed on their individual ideas? It's truly scary, what things in Washington have become. Our nation is more diverse than ever, and that is a contributing factor, but those politicians aren't there to serve anything other than their own backsides. It's maddening. We need a leader. Not a good marketer. Not a good speech writer. Not a guy that looks good on TV. We are desperate for one. Where is he/she?

07-23-2012, 01:41 PM	#3
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by saintfan Why our politicians can't interact with one another similarly hacks me off. I mean, I know why. I get the reasoning behind why they do what they do. The ONE thing I'd like from my government is to regulate the politicians, because if you do that, 70 percent of your problems go away overnight. ... that pretty much sums it up for me & I especially like the 'regulate politicians' viewpoint ... some kind of term-limits would work wonders at unclogging the log jam you see daily in Congress ... serve your country to the best of your ability, then go home! ... they make the military retire after 20yrs, why not Senators or Representatives? saintfan likes this.

07-23-2012, 09:34 PM	#4
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 955	Originally Posted by SloMotion ... that pretty much sums it up for me & I especially like the 'regulate politicians' viewpoint ... some kind of term-limits would work wonders at unclogging the log jam you see daily in Congress ... serve your country to the best of your ability, then go home! ... they make the military retire after 20yrs, why not Senators or Representatives? I don't disagree, but I think term limits for members of congress were deemed unconstitutional a while back. A system of publicly financed campaigns would, hopefully, do wonders. A system that makes politicians and potential politicians dependent on the people. Also, in Australia, 96% of people show up at the poles. 96%! It's not magic; we know how they did it and we can do it too. We don't need "safe-seats" for our representatives, we need competition. Getting rid of gerrymandering is doable. We don't need red states, blue states, and red and blue districts. We need a purple country, where the best candidate with the best ideas wins the nomination and, hopefully, the election. saintfan likes this.
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07-24-2012, 05:01 PM	#5
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,895 Blog Entries: 45	This birther thread has digressed into GOP vs. Demo name calling... it was about birthers guys. Sadly, thread closed.