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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL What are you trying to say with this statement? It seems to contradict itself. The first two points indicate laws are getting less stringent by eliminating the DP and reducing sentences. Yet the third statement would ...

 
 
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:40 PM   #11
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Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL View Post
What are you trying to say with this statement? It seems to contradict itself. The first two points indicate laws are getting less stringent by eliminating the DP and reducing sentences. Yet the third statement would mean they are getting tougher by "persuading" juries to prosecute innocent people. What is your point and what does it have to do with this?
i was saying that the system works.....those were a few changes that are happening slowly across the country and they are big deals because the system works well....it has worked for so long that these changes are BIG stories in the news

First of all you have no idea the factuality of this statement. Go to your local jail and ask how many inmates in there are innocent. I bet it's a pretty high number. If 5 percent of them are telling the truth, then it can add up to a lot of people.
you have no idea how many people i know that work in a jail. my cousin is in summit county SWAT and works at the prison during the week. my next door neighbor works in a jail and my brother is going to school to be a cop and has interned(or whatever they call it) at a jail for a significant amount of time

there are very few places in the world more dangerous than a jail or prison because the people there are....wait for it......CRIMINALS

Second of all we aren't talking about a situation where a person was found Not Guilty. No trial was had due to a lack of evidence. So it is his word against hers. Not enough for a prosecuting DA to waste his/her resources on. This is very similar to the thousands of robberies, muggings, car thefts, and yes rapes that happen every day in this county and go unsolved or unreported.
this statement proves without a doubt that you are bias in this debate......you believe ben did the crime as you compared it to other generic crimes where a party is obviously guilty but doesnt get caught or charged

Unsolved crimes happen all the time in our perfectly set up judicial system.
im going to let you in on a little secret because i like you......the judicial system is not the one that goes out and collects criminals....the judicial system is just the one that convicts criminals

the executive branch is the one that enforces the laws and is responsible for keeping the streets clean


I guess you are fortunate enough to never have been a victim of a crime and experienced this first hand. But I would bet there are far more crimes committed in this country that go unpunished than cases where the legal system gets it right from arrest to prosecution to sentencing.
no but i have close family members that have been the victims of crimes and i dont wish to share those because they are personal but believe me, i know exactly what it means to get the short straw

Of course he is, because the legal system always gets it right and the bad guys always get what's coming to them
i said already that there are a few mistakes as is the case with anything but the system works very well and has worked well for nearly 3 centuries

I'm not saying that he did assault the girl because I wasn't there. But I'm guessing you weren't either. So you saying he positively did not assault her because the DA decided that there wasn't enough to charge him on is a total guess on your part even if you don't want to admit it. Tell me this, if nothing happened as you claim, then why didn't the police file charges against her for filing a false police report?
i said, i believe ben did something......but i dont believe it was rape......he may have made unwanted advances and he may have forced himself on her but obviously there wasnt enough evidence....not blood....not DNA....not video.....not anything that says ben did anything significantly wrong to deserve the guilty sentence of rape

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