Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick

falconhater · 04-12-2010, 10:27 AM

I cant play the Race card as I am White as wonder bread!!! I am just pointing out an observation. If he had kicked a dog he would be gone already. Innocent until proven guilty is BS and we ALL know it. The justice system is driven by money and some people manage to buy there way out of trouble often. In this time in our country Vicks dogs have a larger voice than Bens victims but hey if those females are willing to take a PAYADAY to let him off its their choice right. Also have you ever heard of the "Rooney Rule" put in place because the Ronneys who own the Steelers were being biased toward White Coaches over minorities. Well the "Rooney Rule" doesn't apply to players so Ben Benefits; Holmes Packs. Holmes threw a glass, Ben stole the A$$ which is worse.

Cruize · 04-12-2010, 10:36 AM

The Steelers were not going to give Holmes a new contract. The Jets got a very good football player for basically nothing. The Steelers can dump Roethlisberger as well without any cap hit next year, just alot of cash now, but I don't expect it to happen. A WR is easier to replace than a franchise QB. It does seem to be hypocritical though. Even if Ben is innocent, at the very least, he has repeatedly used VERY poor judgement. As the face of the franchise, that's just not acceptable. I personally would dump Ben and take McCoy late in the first and draft Shipley in the third. LOL.

CantonLegend · 04-12-2010, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by falconhater

I cant play the Race card as I am White as wonder bread!!! I am just pointing out an observation. If he had kicked a dog he would be gone already. Innocent until proven guilty is BS and we ALL know it the justice system is driven by money and some people manage to buy there way out of trouble often. In this time in our country Vicks dogs have a larger voice than Bens vistims but hey if those females are willing to take a PYADAY to let hm off its their choice right. Also have you ever heard of the "Rooney rule" put in place because the Ronneys who own the Steelers were being biased toward White Coaches over minorities. well the Rooney rule doesnt apply to players so Ben Benefits Holmes Packs. Holmes threw a glass Ben stole the A$$ which is worse.

the steelers who have had one of the most stable franchises over the last several decades?

why would they interview a coach they dont want? the rooney rule is a joke...it requires you to interview a minority who may not even be qualified for the job......the league is forcefully integrating and that is not the way to go about it

if you want to have minorities in coaching positions, have them learn the job and earn their way....not be force fed to the owners

you know why there are so many white coaches? because the league was prodominantly white and the players got older and became coaches

now the league is prodominantly made up of minorities and the league will soon see a change in the leadership roles as well

it didnt have to be force fed....it was going there anyway

as far as vick goes.....that had little to do with the crime and more to do with peta.....completely different scenario

and whether you believe people are innocent until proven guilty or not, that is the lay of the law and you gotta live by it

strato · 04-12-2010, 10:47 AM

Hey Falconhater congrats on 100 post..lol...

ScottF · 04-12-2010, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by falconhater

I cant play the Race card as I am White as wonder bread!!! I am just pointing out an observation. If he had kicked a dog he would be gone already. Innocent until proven guilty is BS and we ALL know it. The justice system is driven by money and some people manage to buy there way out of trouble often. In this time in our country Vicks dogs have a larger voice than Bens victims but hey if those females are willing to take a PAYADAY to let him off its their choice right. Also have you ever heard of the "Rooney Rule" put in place because the Ronneys who own the Steelers were being biased toward White Coaches over minorities. Well the "Rooney Rule" doesn't apply to players so Ben Benefits; Holmes Packs. Holmes threw a glass, Ben stole the A$$ which is worse.

are you seriously comparing 2 gold-digger chicks making accusations versus a proven felon who bred, fought, transported and STRANGLED & ELECTROCUTED animals?

The woman in Vegas went to Ben's room because he called down and said his tv wasn't working. She was a 'hostess', not an electrician. Why was she in his room? Was he planning on raping the maintenance guy if he came up to the room?

In GA they are not even furthering the investigation, and Ben did not even give DNA. Enough said.

Roethlisberger is gulity of being stupid, not sexual assault. Holmes is looking at 4 games out. Vick is a felon.
The difference is black and white, as in clear, not as in race

falconhater · 04-12-2010, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

are you seriously comparing 2 gold-digger chicks making accusations versus a proven felon who bred, fought, transported and STRANGLED & ELECTROCUTED animals?

The woman in Vegas went to Ben's room because he called down and said his tv wasn't working. She was a 'hostess', not an electrician. Why was she in his room? Was he planning on raping the maintenance guy if he came up to the room?

In GA they are not even furthering the investigation, and Ben did not even give DNA. Enough said.

Roethlisberger is gulity of being stupid, not sexual assault. Holmes is looking at 4 games out. Vick is a felon.
The difference is black and white, as in clear, not as in race

Ok so the Video evidence against Ben in GA was mysteriously over written and after reporting the ATTACk the night it happened the victim decides to not speak to police. Say what you want Ben is an animal and should be put Down; As for Vick he did break the Law but if Dogs took checks he would have been just as innocent as Ben!!! Hell he fought dogs.. put those mangy animals in the street and they will fight with out provocation they are animals thats what they do. Ben thinks hes above the law Vick openly takes accountability. If I had to choose Id cut Ben and Sign Vick who has shown greater character.

falconhater · 04-12-2010, 11:30 AM

HOLMES THREW GLASS: BEN STOLE A$$
Im Just Sayin!!!

MAybe I should go argue on a steelers boared
WHO DAT got a classy Team .. US DATs WHO

saintsfan1976 · 04-12-2010, 11:32 AM

Ben is guilty of hanging around idiots just like Vick and Holmes and Pacman and whoever else that's still trying to "keep it real"... or act like they're still 19 years old.

And I don't care what color you are - playing the race card just fuels negative arguments. Why not hold people responsible for their ACTIONS and PERFORMANCE instead of their color.

Yes, people are biased - why do you think they're like that?

saintsfan1976 · 04-12-2010, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by falconhater

HOLMES THREW GLASS: BEN STOLE A$$
Im Just Sayin!!!

MAybe I should go argue on a steelers boared
WHO DAT got a classy Team .. US DATs WHO

No, Ben made a pass.

KOBE stole A$$.

saintfan · 04-12-2010, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by falconhater

Ben has been charged twice in a year with this type of misconduct. No matter how much he pays to silence the victims it is a black eye for the league and the steelers

Must...not...respond...

04-12-2010, 10:27 AM	#11
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick I cant play the Race card as I am White as wonder bread!!! I am just pointing out an observation. If he had kicked a dog he would be gone already. Innocent until proven guilty is BS and we ALL know it. The justice system is driven by money and some people manage to buy there way out of trouble often. In this time in our country Vicks dogs have a larger voice than Bens victims but hey if those females are willing to take a PAYADAY to let him off its their choice right. Also have you ever heard of the "Rooney Rule" put in place because the Ronneys who own the Steelers were being biased toward White Coaches over minorities. Well the "Rooney Rule" doesn't apply to players so Ben Benefits; Holmes Packs. Holmes threw a glass, Ben stole the A$$ which is worse.
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04-12-2010, 10:36 AM	#12
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick The Steelers were not going to give Holmes a new contract. The Jets got a very good football player for basically nothing. The Steelers can dump Roethlisberger as well without any cap hit next year, just alot of cash now, but I don't expect it to happen. A WR is easier to replace than a franchise QB. It does seem to be hypocritical though. Even if Ben is innocent, at the very least, he has repeatedly used VERY poor judgement. As the face of the franchise, that's just not acceptable. I personally would dump Ben and take McCoy late in the first and draft Shipley in the third. LOL.
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04-12-2010, 10:39 AM	#13
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick Originally Posted by falconhater I cant play the Race card as I am White as wonder bread!!! I am just pointing out an observation. If he had kicked a dog he would be gone already. Innocent until proven guilty is BS and we ALL know it the justice system is driven by money and some people manage to buy there way out of trouble often. In this time in our country Vicks dogs have a larger voice than Bens vistims but hey if those females are willing to take a PYADAY to let hm off its their choice right. Also have you ever heard of the "Rooney rule" put in place because the Ronneys who own the Steelers were being biased toward White Coaches over minorities. well the Rooney rule doesnt apply to players so Ben Benefits Holmes Packs. Holmes threw a glass Ben stole the A$$ which is worse. the steelers who have had one of the most stable franchises over the last several decades? why would they interview a coach they dont want? the rooney rule is a joke...it requires you to interview a minority who may not even be qualified for the job......the league is forcefully integrating and that is not the way to go about it if you want to have minorities in coaching positions, have them learn the job and earn their way....not be force fed to the owners you know why there are so many white coaches? because the league was prodominantly white and the players got older and became coaches now the league is prodominantly made up of minorities and the league will soon see a change in the leadership roles as well it didnt have to be force fed....it was going there anyway as far as vick goes.....that had little to do with the crime and more to do with peta.....completely different scenario and whether you believe people are innocent until proven guilty or not, that is the lay of the law and you gotta live by it
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04-12-2010, 10:47 AM	#14
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick Hey Falconhater congrats on 100 post..lol...

04-12-2010, 11:16 AM	#15
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick Originally Posted by falconhater I cant play the Race card as I am White as wonder bread!!! I am just pointing out an observation. If he had kicked a dog he would be gone already. Innocent until proven guilty is BS and we ALL know it. The justice system is driven by money and some people manage to buy there way out of trouble often. In this time in our country Vicks dogs have a larger voice than Bens victims but hey if those females are willing to take a PAYADAY to let him off its their choice right. Also have you ever heard of the "Rooney Rule" put in place because the Ronneys who own the Steelers were being biased toward White Coaches over minorities. Well the "Rooney Rule" doesn't apply to players so Ben Benefits; Holmes Packs. Holmes threw a glass, Ben stole the A$$ which is worse. are you seriously comparing 2 gold-digger chicks making accusations versus a proven felon who bred, fought, transported and STRANGLED & ELECTROCUTED animals? The woman in Vegas went to Ben's room because he called down and said his tv wasn't working. She was a 'hostess', not an electrician. Why was she in his room? Was he planning on raping the maintenance guy if he came up to the room? In GA they are not even furthering the investigation, and Ben did not even give DNA. Enough said. Roethlisberger is gulity of being stupid, not sexual assault. Holmes is looking at 4 games out. Vick is a felon. The difference is black and white, as in clear, not as in race
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04-12-2010, 11:29 AM	#16
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick Originally Posted by ScottF are you seriously comparing 2 gold-digger chicks making accusations versus a proven felon who bred, fought, transported and STRANGLED & ELECTROCUTED animals? The woman in Vegas went to Ben's room because he called down and said his tv wasn't working. She was a 'hostess', not an electrician. Why was she in his room? Was he planning on raping the maintenance guy if he came up to the room? In GA they are not even furthering the investigation, and Ben did not even give DNA. Enough said. Roethlisberger is gulity of being stupid, not sexual assault. Holmes is looking at 4 games out. Vick is a felon. The difference is black and white, as in clear, not as in race Ok so the Video evidence against Ben in GA was mysteriously over written and after reporting the ATTACk the night it happened the victim decides to not speak to police. Say what you want Ben is an animal and should be put Down; As for Vick he did break the Law but if Dogs took checks he would have been just as innocent as Ben!!! Hell he fought dogs.. put those mangy animals in the street and they will fight with out provocation they are animals thats what they do. Ben thinks hes above the law Vick openly takes accountability. If I had to choose Id cut Ben and Sign Vick who has shown greater character.
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04-12-2010, 11:30 AM	#17
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick HOLMES THREW GLASS: BEN STOLE A$$ Im Just Sayin!!! MAybe I should go argue on a steelers boared WHO DAT got a classy Team .. US DATs WHO
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04-12-2010, 11:32 AM	#18
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick Ben is guilty of hanging around idiots just like Vick and Holmes and Pacman and whoever else that's still trying to "keep it real"... or act like they're still 19 years old. And I don't care what color you are - playing the race card just fuels negative arguments. Why not hold people responsible for their ACTIONS and PERFORMANCE instead of their color. Yes, people are biased - why do you think they're like that?

04-12-2010, 11:34 AM	#19
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick Originally Posted by falconhater HOLMES THREW GLASS: BEN STOLE A$$ Im Just Sayin!!! MAybe I should go argue on a steelers boared WHO DAT got a classy Team .. US DATs WHO No, Ben made a pass. KOBE stole A$$.

04-12-2010, 01:58 PM	#20
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Steelers trade Holmes to Jets for fifth-round draft pick Originally Posted by falconhater Ben has been charged twice in a year with this type of misconduct. No matter how much he pays to silence the victims it is a black eye for the league and the steelers Must...not...respond...