LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor)

saintsfan1976 · 05-14-2010, 09:27 AM

Back on topic.

LT is accused of paying a prostitute for sex. He knew it was illegal. Anything else that happened before and after can make him an "accessory" to those offenses.

Whether he is found guilty is yet to be determined, but is sure to be an example of just how far from justice our system sometimes bends.

Srgt. Hulka · 05-14-2010, 10:45 AM

What do you guys think? If convicted, should Hall-of-Famers like L.T. and more notably, O.J. Simpson, be removed from the HOF for this type of after career behavior? I know, he hasn't been convicted yet, and OJ was never convicted. Just wondering what you think.

saintfan · 05-14-2010, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka

What do you guys think? If convicted, should Hall-of-Famers like L.T. and more notably, O.J. Simpson, be removed from the HOF for this type of after career behavior? I know, he hasn't been convicted yet, and OJ was never convicted. Just wondering what you think.

No. They aren't Saints. They are football players, or baseball players, etc. What they do on the field warrants (or doesn't warrant) being in their sport's HOF.

And they aren't roll models either. Do you want your kid acting like Mick Jagger? There's no difference. Mommy and Daddy are (or should be) the roll models.

strato · 05-14-2010, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

No. They aren't Saints. They are football players, or baseball players, etc. What they do on the field warrants (or doesn't warrant) being in their sport's HOF.

And they aren't roll models either. Do you want your kid acting like Mick Jagger? There's no difference. Mommy and Daddy are (or should be) the roll models.

Whats wrong with Jagger..let the kids rock if they want man...

skymike · 05-14-2010, 05:01 PM

damn, i was telling my kids to be like Keith Richard.

I disagree. Bear in mind, I grew up idolizing O.J. (everybody who thinks he didnt kill Nicole, stand on their head.) The Black Sox and Pete Rose did great things on the field. But the HOF is an honor. You should be honorable. Look how Big Ben didnt get charged with anything, but Roger said, "tough, you shamed the game anyway--- so you sit."

LT did awesome things on the field, but he shamed the game off of it.

jmo.

ok, back off topic: "She Bop*, you Bop*, we all Bop*."

*see stinchcomb thread

saintfan · 05-14-2010, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Whats wrong with Jagger..let the kids rock if they want man...

I think Mick took "Rocking" to a whole 'nuther level...not that there's anything wrong with that, but he's probably not your a-typical role model.

Hey, my kids can be rock stars if they want. My point is they're rock stars, not role models. A good guitar player does not a role model make. Neither does a good Football player...not due to their abilities as musicians or athletes anyway, unless of course we're talking about occupational role models, in which case Mick and LT are excellent role models. From a moral standpoint not so much.

The problem with any of the HOF's is the criteria isn't straight forward. But if being a thug at some point during one's career was a true limiting factor, the HOF in Ohio would have about half as many members.

saintfan · 05-14-2010, 07:31 PM

Hmmmm...a Witness for the defense?

NEW YORK -- Lawrence Taylor's attorney says a woman has come forward as a defense witness in the NFL legend's sexual assault case to say he did not rape a 16-year-old girl.

The 23-year-old woman says in a sworn statement given to defense investigators that she accompanied the teen to the Holiday Inn north of New York City, where the girl was to meet Taylor.

She said that the girl returned to the car after the meeting with Taylor with $300 cash, and told her that they did not have sex.

Taylor's lawyer, Arthur Aidala, says he will use the woman's testimony to bolster his case.

The 51-year-old Taylor was charged May 6 with third-degree rape and patronizing a prostitute.

Woman says Taylor did not have sex with teen - ESPN New York

QBREES9 · 05-14-2010, 10:44 PM

Can ya really trust what a 16 year old whore sez ???

SaintPauly · 05-17-2010, 03:28 AM

Ah ha. Let this be a lesson to all of you who jumped on LT's lynch mob, before the case played out. Not saying guilty, or innocent, either way. I will wait for all of the facts. And really, since chances are, I won't be on the jury, then it's not my place to judge him anyway.

SaintPauly · 05-17-2010, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

nonono... Its perfectly natural ... you know... for a young boy--- er, young man to .... umm... be curious... uhhh... nothing to be ashamed of... and just know ... that um... you ... you can always ask me anything... a-about... you know... whatever's on your mind... it's perfectly natural...

btw, I was discussing ancient history, not current habits.
My new habits are much worse.

Didn't you say you are married Mike? If so, I'm sure your self gratifying habits ARE much worse. If it is anything like my marriage was that is....

05-14-2010, 09:27 AM	#51
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Back on topic. LT is accused of paying a prostitute for sex. He knew it was illegal. Anything else that happened before and after can make him an "accessory" to those offenses. Whether he is found guilty is yet to be determined, but is sure to be an example of just how far from justice our system sometimes bends.

05-14-2010, 10:45 AM	#52
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) What do you guys think? If convicted, should Hall-of-Famers like L.T. and more notably, O.J. Simpson, be removed from the HOF for this type of after career behavior? I know, he hasn't been convicted yet, and OJ was never convicted. Just wondering what you think.

05-14-2010, 01:22 PM	#53
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka What do you guys think? If convicted, should Hall-of-Famers like L.T. and more notably, O.J. Simpson, be removed from the HOF for this type of after career behavior? I know, he hasn't been convicted yet, and OJ was never convicted. Just wondering what you think. No. They aren't Saints. They are football players, or baseball players, etc. What they do on the field warrants (or doesn't warrant) being in their sport's HOF. And they aren't roll models either. Do you want your kid acting like Mick Jagger? There's no difference. Mommy and Daddy are (or should be) the roll models.

05-14-2010, 04:21 PM	#54
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Originally Posted by saintfan No. They aren't Saints. They are football players, or baseball players, etc. What they do on the field warrants (or doesn't warrant) being in their sport's HOF. And they aren't roll models either. Do you want your kid acting like Mick Jagger? There's no difference. Mommy and Daddy are (or should be) the roll models. Whats wrong with Jagger..let the kids rock if they want man...

05-14-2010, 05:01 PM	#55
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) damn, i was telling my kids to be like Keith Richard. I disagree. Bear in mind, I grew up idolizing O.J. (everybody who thinks he didnt kill Nicole, stand on their head.) The Black Sox and Pete Rose did great things on the field. But the HOF is an honor. You should be honorable. Look how Big Ben didnt get charged with anything, but Roger said, "tough, you shamed the game anyway--- so you sit." LT did awesome things on the field, but he shamed the game off of it. jmo. ok, back off topic: "She Bop, you Bop, we all Bop." see stinchcomb thread
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05-14-2010, 05:32 PM	#56
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Originally Posted by strato Whats wrong with Jagger..let the kids rock if they want man... I think Mick took "Rocking" to a whole 'nuther level...not that there's anything wrong with that, but he's probably not your a-typical role model. Hey, my kids can be rock stars if they want. My point is they're rock stars, not role models. A good guitar player does not a role model make. Neither does a good Football player...not due to their abilities as musicians or athletes anyway, unless of course we're talking about occupational role models, in which case Mick and LT are excellent role models. From a moral standpoint not so much. The problem with any of the HOF's is the criteria isn't straight forward. But if being a thug at some point during one's career was a true limiting factor, the HOF in Ohio would have about half as many members.
	C'mon Man...

05-14-2010, 07:31 PM	#57
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Hmmmm...a Witness for the defense? NEW YORK -- Lawrence Taylor's attorney says a woman has come forward as a defense witness in the NFL legend's sexual assault case to say he did not rape a 16-year-old girl. The 23-year-old woman says in a sworn statement given to defense investigators that she accompanied the teen to the Holiday Inn north of New York City, where the girl was to meet Taylor. She said that the girl returned to the car after the meeting with Taylor with $300 cash, and told her that they did not have sex. Taylor's lawyer, Arthur Aidala, says he will use the woman's testimony to bolster his case. The 51-year-old Taylor was charged May 6 with third-degree rape and patronizing a prostitute. Woman says Taylor did not have sex with teen - ESPN New York
	C'mon Man...

05-14-2010, 10:44 PM	#58
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Can ya really trust what a 16 year old whore sez ???

05-17-2010, 03:28 AM	#59
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Ah ha. Let this be a lesson to all of you who jumped on LT's lynch mob, before the case played out. Not saying guilty, or innocent, either way. I will wait for all of the facts. And really, since chances are, I won't be on the jury, then it's not my place to judge him anyway.

05-17-2010, 03:30 AM	#60
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Originally Posted by skymike nonono... Its perfectly natural ... you know... for a young boy--- er, young man to .... umm... be curious... uhhh... nothing to be ashamed of... and just know ... that um... you ... you can always ask me anything... a-about... you know... whatever's on your mind... it's perfectly natural... btw, I was discussing ancient history, not current habits. My new habits are much worse. Didn't you say you are married Mike? If so, I'm sure your self gratifying habits ARE much worse. If it is anything like my marriage was that is....