LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor)

SAINT_MICHAEL · 05-18-2010, 10:55 PM

Well, your reply requires a bit of typing, but I'll try to keep it short:

Originally Posted by saintfan

So what exactly is your point?

I thought it was obvious, but here it is again...(Quote myself COOL!!)

"a person is justified in having a feeling/reaction/opinion about the man and his character based upon his past and his recent choice to hire a girl to have sex with."

I was not there, so maybe I was wrong in saying "hire a girl to have sex with". Most accounts agree with that, but I will throw it out for your sake. So cut out everything after "based upon his pasat". So that is my point. You disagree with that? Yes or no...a simple question.

Originally Posted by saintfan

"regardless of what you and your ilk choose to believe. A righteous man will pause and judge a person once all the facts are known.

This is the part I love. You imply that you are more "righteous" than I am. You also liken me with some "ilk". What ilk is this? Those that disagree with you? Read my post again. I simply presented a viewpoint other than the boilerplate "innocent until proven guilty" that you use. But I carefully worded my post so that I never expressed that these were my feelings. I maintained a neutral position. I also never expressed anything saying LT should be punished. Just like I never did about Big Ben going back to past posts. I expressed an understanding for those that feel this way. But you have labeled me as "your ilk" multiple times and spouted off the "innocent" line beccause no legal finding. Seems to me a righteous man be willing to see another person's viewpoint and not label.

Originally Posted by saintfan

Ben's punishment from the league is warranted.

Oh is it? Based upon what? Your opinion? Being as I have had a neutral position so far, it seems that you have no logical basis for saying a suspension is warrantd for Ben with no guilt, but then calling out people for casting doubt on LT with no guilt (especially since he has past guilt). You're basically saying your type of prejudice is more justified than someone else's. No logic there at all.

Originally Posted by saintfan

We don't even know what LT did or didn't do. You go right ahead and think what you want to think. That's your right, but it doesn't mean one ounce of one thing at the end of the day.

Well, we agree upon the value of both our opinions. But what we don't agree on what LT has or has not done. He has self admittingly done multiple things that are illegal/morally questionable (I'd throw in a wikipedia reference but you'd just make fun of it). If a person wants to hold another person's multiple checkered past against them, then it seems reasonable to me.

I also wondered if you honestly answered A or B to my prom scenario Mr Righteous?

05-18-2010, 10:55 PM	#31
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: LT accused of rape (Lawrence Taylor) Well, your reply requires a bit of typing, but I'll try to keep it short: Originally Posted by saintfan So what exactly is your point? I thought it was obvious, but here it is again...(Quote myself COOL!!) "a person is justified in having a feeling/reaction/opinion about the man and his character based upon his past and his recent choice to hire a girl to have sex with." I was not there, so maybe I was wrong in saying "hire a girl to have sex with". Most accounts agree with that, but I will throw it out for your sake. So cut out everything after "based upon his pasat". So that is my point. You disagree with that? Yes or no...a simple question. Originally Posted by saintfan "regardless of what you and your ilk choose to believe. A righteous man will pause and judge a person once all the facts are known. This is the part I love. You imply that you are more "righteous" than I am. You also liken me with some "ilk". What ilk is this? Those that disagree with you? Read my post again. I simply presented a viewpoint other than the boilerplate "innocent until proven guilty" that you use. But I carefully worded my post so that I never expressed that these were my feelings. I maintained a neutral position. I also never expressed anything saying LT should be punished. Just like I never did about Big Ben going back to past posts. I expressed an understanding for those that feel this way. But you have labeled me as "your ilk" multiple times and spouted off the "innocent" line beccause no legal finding. Seems to me a righteous man be willing to see another person's viewpoint and not label. Originally Posted by saintfan Ben's punishment from the league is warranted. Oh is it? Based upon what? Your opinion? Being as I have had a neutral position so far, it seems that you have no logical basis for saying a suspension is warrantd for Ben with no guilt, but then calling out people for casting doubt on LT with no guilt (especially since he has past guilt). You're basically saying your type of prejudice is more justified than someone else's. No logic there at all. Originally Posted by saintfan We don't even know what LT did or didn't do. You go right ahead and think what you want to think. That's your right, but it doesn't mean one ounce of one thing at the end of the day. Well, we agree upon the value of both our opinions. But what we don't agree on what LT has or has not done. He has self admittingly done multiple things that are illegal/morally questionable (I'd throw in a wikipedia reference but you'd just make fun of it). If a person wants to hold another person's multiple checkered past against them, then it seems reasonable to me. I also wondered if you honestly answered A or B to my prom scenario Mr Righteous?
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