Is Micheal Vick the best QB in the NFL?

QBREES9 · 11-16-2010, 12:43 PM

I hate to say it, but maybe.

papz · 11-16-2010, 01:25 PM

The NFL... where everything is "what have you done for me lately". Just a couple of weeks ago Chris Ivory put up a great game against the Tampa Bay Bucs... and then people were saying how great of a running back he was going to become here. People are way too quick to jump on and off bandwagons. He had a great game... one that certainly went down in the history books. But the best in the league... personally I don't think so. Without a doubt Vick is the most electrifying football player in the league... but if I had a must win game with everything on the line, he would not be in my top 5.

Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, and Big Ben would be my top 5... Vick probably right after that.

jcp026 · 11-16-2010, 01:31 PM

It hurts me to say it, but, at the moment, the just might be. Ouch.

Ashley · 11-16-2010, 04:05 PM

well i have always hated him do to fact we had to play him twice a year.
But DAMN the dude was unbelievable last night. If he plays like that the rest of the year. Yes he would be the best!
I really hope they don't make the playoffs.

saintsfan1976 · 11-16-2010, 04:49 PM

.

Vick is the reason we give people a "second chance".

Speaking as a former 'Vick hater' - I'm actually cheering the guy on. I saw his maturity in the Gruden interview.

Glad to see his transformation and I hope he becomes a beacon of light for embattled youths.

SaintPauly · 11-16-2010, 05:08 PM

I'm just curious, but before we crown Vick as the "best", what is the Redskins defensive rankings right now? Anyone want to post that? I gave Haslett credit before, on his defensive schemes, but I gotta say, they all played like hot garbage last night. In fact, after the Eagles were up in the 2nd quarter, they all seemed to quit, more than anything else. Vick is a great player, but the best QB in the league? You gotta be kidding me. The skins are in a total rebuild this season, on both sides of the ball, with a new head coach, and an all new coaching staff. Let's not get too carried away here.

Let's also not forget that the Skins beat the Eagles, in THEIR house, the first time they played. Didn't Vick play that game?

CheramieIII · 11-16-2010, 05:16 PM

The Saints and our great fans are better without Vick. Let me explain: Vick should've never been given an opportunity to play professional football aqain because he didn't just make one or two mistakes and pay for them, he made a killing grounds purposely, he is inhumane purposely, he made money betting on his endeavors purposely, he lied about everything purposel. So you see there were hundreds of mistakes, a couple I could forgive but IMO Michael Vick and everything thug like him has no place on this earth and I mean that with all my heart.

SaintPauly · 11-16-2010, 05:18 PM

I decided to answer my own question. Going into that game, the Skins were ranked 31st against the pass. Not exactly the best secondary in football I suspect.

"When the statistics are moved to the side - and that will be hard to do - there will be significant questions about the Redskins defense, which must somehow right itself over the season's final seven games. Washington entered the night allowing 393.3 yards per game, third-worst in the NFL. It had been especially susceptible to the pass, ranking 31st in the league at 280.9 yards per game."

RaginCajun83 · 11-17-2010, 11:21 AM

Vick is the flavor of the week, if they loose to the Giants and Vick does poorly then no one cares what he did this week against a horrible Redskins team .... stop being caught in the moment, one good game does not make you great

alldat · 11-19-2010, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

The same Giants that got decimated by the 1-7 Cowboys? I wouldn't be suprised if Vick scored 8 touchdowns against them.

Give the man his due, he's even outplaying our all pro QB. I suspect that may be why many aren't willing to give him praise. I hope that's not the reason, but i believe it is.

Only a Falqueen fan would come up with this mumbo jumbo.I suspect you are still hoping Vick will come home one day.Maybe you should be be on a Iggles board as well...

11-16-2010, 01:25 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	The NFL... where everything is "what have you done for me lately". Just a couple of weeks ago Chris Ivory put up a great game against the Tampa Bay Bucs... and then people were saying how great of a running back he was going to become here. People are way too quick to jump on and off bandwagons. He had a great game... one that certainly went down in the history books. But the best in the league... personally I don't think so. Without a doubt Vick is the most electrifying football player in the league... but if I had a must win game with everything on the line, he would not be in my top 5. Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, and Big Ben would be my top 5... Vick probably right after that.
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11-16-2010, 01:31 PM	#3
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11-16-2010, 05:08 PM	#6
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I'm just curious, but before we crown Vick as the "best", what is the Redskins defensive rankings right now? Anyone want to post that? I gave Haslett credit before, on his defensive schemes, but I gotta say, they all played like hot garbage last night. In fact, after the Eagles were up in the 2nd quarter, they all seemed to quit, more than anything else. Vick is a great player, but the best QB in the league? You gotta be kidding me. The skins are in a total rebuild this season, on both sides of the ball, with a new head coach, and an all new coaching staff. Let's not get too carried away here. Let's also not forget that the Skins beat the Eagles, in THEIR house, the first time they played. Didn't Vick play that game?
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11-19-2010, 01:13 AM	#10
alldat 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 113	Originally Posted by Mr Magic The same Giants that got decimated by the 1-7 Cowboys? I wouldn't be suprised if Vick scored 8 touchdowns against them. Give the man his due, he's even outplaying our all pro QB. I suspect that may be why many aren't willing to give him praise. I hope that's not the reason, but i believe it is. Only a Falqueen fan would come up with this mumbo jumbo.I suspect you are still hoping Vick will come home one day.Maybe you should be be on a Iggles board as well...
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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	I hate to say it, but maybe.

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Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	well i have always hated him do to fact we had to play him twice a year. But DAMN the dude was unbelievable last night. If he plays like that the rest of the year. Yes he would be the best! I really hope they don't make the playoffs.

11-16-2010, 04:49 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	. Vick is the reason we give people a "second chance". Speaking as a former 'Vick hater' - I'm actually cheering the guy on. I saw his maturity in the Gruden interview. Glad to see his transformation and I hope he becomes a beacon of light for embattled youths.

11-16-2010, 05:16 PM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,489 Blog Entries: 3	The Saints and our great fans are better without Vick. Let me explain: Vick should've never been given an opportunity to play professional football aqain because he didn't just make one or two mistakes and pay for them, he made a killing grounds purposely, he is inhumane purposely, he made money betting on his endeavors purposely, he lied about everything purposel. So you see there were hundreds of mistakes, a couple I could forgive but IMO Michael Vick and everything thug like him has no place on this earth and I mean that with all my heart.

11-16-2010, 05:18 PM	#8
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I decided to answer my own question. Going into that game, the Skins were ranked 31st against the pass. Not exactly the best secondary in football I suspect. "When the statistics are moved to the side - and that will be hard to do - there will be significant questions about the Redskins defense, which must somehow right itself over the season's final seven games. Washington entered the night allowing 393.3 yards per game, third-worst in the NFL. It had been especially susceptible to the pass, ranking 31st in the league at 280.9 yards per game."

11-17-2010, 11:21 AM	#9
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Vick is the flavor of the week, if they loose to the Giants and Vick does poorly then no one cares what he did this week against a horrible Redskins team .... stop being caught in the moment, one good game does not make you great