Is Micheal Vick the best QB in the NFL?

alldat · 11-19-2010, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

The same Giants that got decimated by the 1-7 Cowboys? I wouldn't be suprised if Vick scored 8 touchdowns against them.

Give the man his due, he's even outplaying our all pro QB. I suspect that may be why many aren't willing to give him praise. I hope that's not the reason, but i believe it is.

Only a Falqueen fan would come up with this mumbo jumbo.I suspect you are still hoping Vick will come home one day.Maybe you should be be on a Iggles board as well...

Saintswrath · 11-19-2010, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

DOPE! I read that wrong or NFl.com had it backwards....

That page issue you posted is because moderators remove posts but they stay in the thread where we can not see them...

I used to love these forums but as of late (past few weeks) the moderators are getting heavy handed and removing posts and entire threads... This is a bit much for me.

There were pages about PT that are now gone.

As a moderator i take offense to that, i take pride in being the most lenient non-Nazi, most laid back moderator ever, believe me if the board was trashed we moderators discuss a reason why it was and if it should remain trashed, we are very diplomatic here, i read through that thread and the topic was totally changed, no reason to keep it on the board disturbing Saints related stuff, we're not going to allow topics to get derailed.. Sorry, there are boards around that allow that, go look at their traffic compared to ours and you'll see why we are currently gaining more popularity.

Anyway all opinions are welcomed and everyone is welcomed to start a topic about anything you want, just please try and be on topic and start the topics in the right threads and you'll be aiigght.

Back on to Micheal Vick, some of ya'll are still thinking about that dog event,
I don't see how Rapist Ben get's a pass but Vick family harms dogs and serves all of his time given by the courts and you want him to just vanish, Ben has had 2 Rape cases just evaporate, Favre has sent nude pix of himself to a chick and he gets no punishment, in fact the NFL is trying to cover it up for him, yet Vick gets crucified, used as an example, dragged around, all of his funds drained, and he basically has to start over from scratch and people want to completely kick the guy and all that talent off the field? where's the fairness?
If he was completely garbage i'd agree, why is he playing, but that man has made a complete turn around, i don't think he'll be a repeat offender and he's paid his dues, he should be allowed to play and im happy for him.

SaintPauly · 11-19-2010, 11:52 AM

I agree on all counts Wrath, and his past, (other than his football related past), has nothing to do with my observations. I am basing my opinion, on the teams he's torched. Washington is just a terrible team right now. Let me see him do it against the Giants, and I will give him some props.

To be completely honest, someone's personal life, is none of my business. I keep it that way with everything.

TheOak · 11-19-2010, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by strato

The pages that were removed are in the trash can..because they became political....nothing here has been touched to my knowledge..

http://blackandgold.com/f13/30461-lo...ame-saint.html

Thanks... That did get pretty stupid. Ill comment no more on that LOL.. Dont want this one locked.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 11-19-2010, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

To be completely honest, someone's personal life, is none of my business. I keep it that way with everything.

I believe if someone's personal life involves something highly illegal or especially heinous it becomes society's business. If your next door neighbor enjoys serial killing or running a meth lab in the bathroom as part of their personal life, then I'm sure you would want to make it your business.

TheOak · 11-19-2010, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Vick was shaking off rust earlier in the season. The man is setting NFL records, and winning. Watch him destroy the overrated Giants and Eli this weekend.

BTW...our all pro qb has problems with 3-4 defenses.

Thanks for point this out. Ummmm Please list the NFL record(s) he has set?

Now in 2006 he broke two records but that was with the Falcons and does you nor the Eagles any good. But That hodgepodge of fanboy manlove, combination of achievements strung together was not an Official NFL Record.

What everyone is calling the "Record he set" Does not exist.
List of National Football League records (individual)

List of National Football League records (individual) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of National Football League records (individual) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now Brees on the other hand holds Official NFL records.

None of those most yards while playing at 33 feet of altitude, with red socks on, holding a banana in one hand, chewing bubble yum...records.

TheOak · 11-19-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Saintswrath

As a moderator i take offense to that, i take pride in being the most lenient non-Nazi, most laid back moderator ever, believe me if the board was trashed we moderators discuss a reason why it was and if it should remain trashed, we are very diplomatic here, i read through that thread and the topic was totally changed, no reason to keep it on the board disturbing Saints related stuff, we're not going to allow topics to get derailed.. Sorry, there are boards around that allow that, go look at their traffic compared to ours and you'll see why we are currently gaining more popularity.

Anyway all opinions are welcomed and everyone is welcomed to start a topic about anything you want, just please try and be on topic and start the topics in the right threads and you'll be aiigght.

Back on to Micheal Vick, some of ya'll are still thinking about that dog event,
I don't see how Rapist Ben get's a pass but Vick family harms dogs and serves all of his time given by the courts and you want him to just vanish, Ben has had 2 Rape cases just evaporate, Favre has sent nude pix of himself to a chick and he gets no punishment, in fact the NFL is trying to cover it up for him, yet Vick gets crucified, used as an example, dragged around, all of his funds drained, and he basically has to start over from scratch and people want to completely kick the guy and all that talent off the field? where's the fairness?
If he was completely garbage i'd agree, why is he playing, but that man has made a complete turn around, i don't think he'll be a repeat offender and he's paid his dues, he should be allowed to play and im happy for him.

Please do not be offended I was having a rough morning and never saw what had transpired after I had left my last PT comment. I just know I logged in and the thread no longer existed in my list of last posts, and search would not find it... I own and mod a few different boards and fully understand, and appreciate your soft handed approach.. Hell, the fact that you even took the time to reply to he lifts you up a few thousand notches in my book.

B.O.T... I do not give Ben a pass, or Vick. Having one momentary lapse of character does not a bad guy make. Just like getting in a fight while drunk does not make someone less appealing to drink around.. Condoning, orchestrating, participating, and profiting from an illegal and immoral act like dog fighting puts a person right below whale sh1t in my book. So does abusing females... Neither should be allowed to play the game. They both broke the leagues Code of Conduct intentionally and repeatedly... There were no "misunderstandings"... THen when you look at sports as a whole... And look at Rose being kept out of the Hall of Fame because of betting... You really have to wonder... What in the hell does an NFL player have to do to get the boot???

I mean we almost lost players for 6 games (I believe) because of the use of a product that was not on the NFL's No-No list. Thats two more games than Rapist Ben!

Favre should be suspended after the "Porkey's p3nis" line up... But the NFL does not want to harm his precious start record.

CashAndFlash · 11-19-2010, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek.

Nah, pretty sure he won't, and neither will I, or the next guy who reads this post... or the next... see where this is going?

SaintPauly · 11-21-2010, 05:50 AM

I just want to point out, that it's perfectly ok, NOT TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING. Would be pretty boring in here, if we all just agreed with each other. I don't think that Vick is the "best" qb in the NFL, and I'm not going to change my mind on it. I'm also not saying he's a bad QB either. Just feel the way I do, and I'm not going to just flip my opinion.

spkb25 · 11-21-2010, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek.

No, none of those, but he has a Super Bowl, and I'll take that every time!

11-19-2010, 02:13 AM	#51
alldat 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 113	Originally Posted by Mr Magic The same Giants that got decimated by the 1-7 Cowboys? I wouldn't be suprised if Vick scored 8 touchdowns against them. Give the man his due, he's even outplaying our all pro QB. I suspect that may be why many aren't willing to give him praise. I hope that's not the reason, but i believe it is. Only a Falqueen fan would come up with this mumbo jumbo.I suspect you are still hoping Vick will come home one day.Maybe you should be be on a Iggles board as well...
alldat 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 113

11-19-2010, 11:03 AM	#52
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	Originally Posted by x626xBlack DOPE! I read that wrong or NFl.com had it backwards.... That page issue you posted is because moderators remove posts but they stay in the thread where we can not see them... I used to love these forums but as of late (past few weeks) the moderators are getting heavy handed and removing posts and entire threads... This is a bit much for me. There were pages about PT that are now gone. As a moderator i take offense to that, i take pride in being the most lenient non-Nazi, most laid back moderator ever, believe me if the board was trashed we moderators discuss a reason why it was and if it should remain trashed, we are very diplomatic here, i read through that thread and the topic was totally changed, no reason to keep it on the board disturbing Saints related stuff, we're not going to allow topics to get derailed.. Sorry, there are boards around that allow that, go look at their traffic compared to ours and you'll see why we are currently gaining more popularity. Anyway all opinions are welcomed and everyone is welcomed to start a topic about anything you want, just please try and be on topic and start the topics in the right threads and you'll be aiigght. Back on to Micheal Vick, some of ya'll are still thinking about that dog event, I don't see how Rapist Ben get's a pass but Vick family harms dogs and serves all of his time given by the courts and you want him to just vanish, Ben has had 2 Rape cases just evaporate, Favre has sent nude pix of himself to a chick and he gets no punishment, in fact the NFL is trying to cover it up for him, yet Vick gets crucified, used as an example, dragged around, all of his funds drained, and he basically has to start over from scratch and people want to completely kick the guy and all that talent off the field? where's the fairness? If he was completely garbage i'd agree, why is he playing, but that man has made a complete turn around, i don't think he'll be a repeat offender and he's paid his dues, he should be allowed to play and im happy for him.
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11-19-2010, 12:28 PM	#54
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by strato The pages that were removed are in the trash can..because they became political....nothing here has been touched to my knowledge.. http://blackandgold.com/f13/30461-lo...ame-saint.html Thanks... That did get pretty stupid. Ill comment no more on that LOL.. Dont want this one locked.

11-19-2010, 12:51 PM	#55
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 To be completely honest, someone's personal life, is none of my business. I keep it that way with everything. I believe if someone's personal life involves something highly illegal or especially heinous it becomes society's business. If your next door neighbor enjoys serial killing or running a meth lab in the bathroom as part of their personal life, then I'm sure you would want to make it your business.
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446

11-19-2010, 01:43 PM	#57
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by Saintswrath As a moderator i take offense to that, i take pride in being the most lenient non-Nazi, most laid back moderator ever, believe me if the board was trashed we moderators discuss a reason why it was and if it should remain trashed, we are very diplomatic here, i read through that thread and the topic was totally changed, no reason to keep it on the board disturbing Saints related stuff, we're not going to allow topics to get derailed.. Sorry, there are boards around that allow that, go look at their traffic compared to ours and you'll see why we are currently gaining more popularity. Anyway all opinions are welcomed and everyone is welcomed to start a topic about anything you want, just please try and be on topic and start the topics in the right threads and you'll be aiigght. Back on to Micheal Vick, some of ya'll are still thinking about that dog event, I don't see how Rapist Ben get's a pass but Vick family harms dogs and serves all of his time given by the courts and you want him to just vanish, Ben has had 2 Rape cases just evaporate, Favre has sent nude pix of himself to a chick and he gets no punishment, in fact the NFL is trying to cover it up for him, yet Vick gets crucified, used as an example, dragged around, all of his funds drained, and he basically has to start over from scratch and people want to completely kick the guy and all that talent off the field? where's the fairness? If he was completely garbage i'd agree, why is he playing, but that man has made a complete turn around, i don't think he'll be a repeat offender and he's paid his dues, he should be allowed to play and im happy for him. Please do not be offended I was having a rough morning and never saw what had transpired after I had left my last PT comment. I just know I logged in and the thread no longer existed in my list of last posts, and search would not find it... I own and mod a few different boards and fully understand, and appreciate your soft handed approach.. Hell, the fact that you even took the time to reply to he lifts you up a few thousand notches in my book. B.O.T... I do not give Ben a pass, or Vick. Having one momentary lapse of character does not a bad guy make. Just like getting in a fight while drunk does not make someone less appealing to drink around.. Condoning, orchestrating, participating, and profiting from an illegal and immoral act like dog fighting puts a person right below whale sh1t in my book. So does abusing females... Neither should be allowed to play the game. They both broke the leagues Code of Conduct intentionally and repeatedly... There were no "misunderstandings"... THen when you look at sports as a whole... And look at Rose being kept out of the Hall of Fame because of betting... You really have to wonder... What in the hell does an NFL player have to do to get the boot??? I mean we almost lost players for 6 games (I believe) because of the use of a product that was not on the NFL's No-No list. Thats two more games than Rapist Ben! Favre should be suspended after the "Porkey's p3nis" line up... But the NFL does not want to harm his precious start record.
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11-19-2010, 11:52 AM	#53
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I agree on all counts Wrath, and his past, (other than his football related past), has nothing to do with my observations. I am basing my opinion, on the teams he's torched. Washington is just a terrible team right now. Let me see him do it against the Giants, and I will give him some props. To be completely honest, someone's personal life, is none of my business. I keep it that way with everything.

11-19-2010, 09:43 PM	#58
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek. Nah, pretty sure he won't, and neither will I, or the next guy who reads this post... or the next... see where this is going?

11-21-2010, 05:50 AM	#59
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I just want to point out, that it's perfectly ok, NOT TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING. Would be pretty boring in here, if we all just agreed with each other. I don't think that Vick is the "best" qb in the NFL, and I'm not going to change my mind on it. I'm also not saying he's a bad QB either. Just feel the way I do, and I'm not going to just flip my opinion.

11-21-2010, 07:36 PM	#60
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek. No, none of those, but he has a Super Bowl, and I'll take that every time!

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