Is Micheal Vick the best QB in the NFL?

saintsfan601 · 11-17-2010, 04:26 PM

How come I can't see page five?

Halo · 11-17-2010, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan601

How come I can't see page five?

I think you're on page 5...

saintsfan601 · 11-17-2010, 04:34 PM

okay I kept seeing page four everytime I clicked on this thread.Sorry about the useless post.It's fixed now.It may have just been a problem on my end.

D_it_up · 11-17-2010, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Saintswrath

He may quite possibly be at least this year be the best QB in the NFL..

The two words in bold type are the operative words in this statement. Even before the dog scandal, Vick was a RB in a QB's body. He's always had a cannon for an arm, but he never had the head to match it.....until this year. He finally harnessed all of his talent and is having the best year of his career. It doesn't hurt that he has some nice talent at the skill positions surrounding him, but he has learned what to do with all their talent and his own. Can he keep up this pace the rest of the season? The Magic 8 Ball says "Outlook looks good". Will he be able to keep it up next season? That remains to be seen. This year, however, he's top "dog".

11toby · 11-17-2010, 04:58 PM

As for Vick, he sure looks great this season, but we still have HALF the season left to play.

Originally Posted by saintsfan601

I think in Hasletts case he's one of those rare guys that is a better head coach then he is a coordinator.I feel like he should have been allowed to stay the head coach of the Rams.

HMMM I dunno about that. The Rams went 2-10 with Has at interim coach and I remember they lost 10 in a row, some of the loses were major blowout drubbings.

You think they Rams should have kept him as HC? I think as an interim coach you have to pull at least a close to .500 record to be considered for hire.

saintsfan601 · 11-17-2010, 05:27 PM

HMMM I dunno about that. The Rams went 2-10 with Has at interim coach and I remember they lost 10 in a row, some of the loses were major blowout drubbings.

You think they Rams should have kept him as HC? I think as an interim coach you have to pull at least a close to .500 record to be considered for hire.

I think to get two wins out of that team was great coaching.The only player on that team worth anything was Stephen Jackson.I don't think Bill Walsh,Vince Lombardi,Jimmy Johnson,Sean Peyton,or any other coach could have gotten more than two wins out of that team.

OldMaid · 11-17-2010, 07:18 PM

He should not be in the NFL. He should have not been allowed back.
Playing football for a living , THE FEW YEARS ONE CAN DO SO is not a right,but a PRIVILEGE.

Saintswrath · 11-17-2010, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

He should not be in the NFL. He should have not been allowed back.
Playing football for a living , THE FEW YEARS ONE CAN DO SO is not a right,but a PRIVILEGE.

We'll we are a country that forgives after they serve their time for their wrong "OR theoretically forgive" for that matter sometimes people pick who they want to forgive for certain things..
The man's done his time, he's given public service as ordered by the courts, paid his due's, unless you want to have him hung for his crimes i think once he's done all he's had to do for his crimes he should be free to once again use his craft, if a company be it "NFL, Construction yard, Walmart etc" wants to hire him to help themselves better their own franchise, business or corporation they have the right hire and pay him for his services they think he's worth and he has the right to earn it.

No one was required to hire Vick, they came to him because they saw some use left in him, we gotta have that in mind when we think he's getting off easy.

D_it_up · 11-18-2010, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by Saintswrath

We'll we are a country that forgives after they serve their time for their wrong "OR theoretically forgive" for that matter sometimes people pick who they want to forgive for certain things..
The man's done his time, he's given public service as ordered by the courts, paid his due's, unless you want to have him hung for his crimes i think once he's done all he's had to do for his crimes he should be free to once again use his craft, if a company be it "NFL, Construction yard, Walmart etc" wants to hire him to help themselves better their own franchise, business or corporation they have the right hire and pay him for his services they think he's worth and he has the right to earn it.

No one was required to hire Vick, they came to him because they saw some use left in him, we gotta have that in mind when we think he's getting off easy.

Well said. A buddy and I were discussing Michael Vick last night, and we came to a conclusion. The majority of sports fans have a short-term memory about a player's wrongdoings after a couple of years, especially when they have incredible seasons on the field or court. Ray Lewis, Kobe Bryant, Pete Rose, just to name a few. Winning or sympathy seem to give people a slight case of amnesia. It's not that we completely forget what they did in their past, but for many of us, it sure isn't the first thing we think of in the present.

Choupique · 11-18-2010, 04:36 AM

I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon.

How many Super Bowl rings does Vick have?

Slow down folks, would be my suggestion. If Vick pulls off what Marino did, get back to us.

11-17-2010, 04:30 PM	#32
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,602 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by saintsfan601 How come I can't see page five? I think you're on page 5...

11-17-2010, 04:56 PM	#34
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Saintswrath He may quite possibly be at least this year be the best QB in the NFL.. The two words in bold type are the operative words in this statement. Even before the dog scandal, Vick was a RB in a QB's body. He's always had a cannon for an arm, but he never had the head to match it.....until this year. He finally harnessed all of his talent and is having the best year of his career. It doesn't hurt that he has some nice talent at the skill positions surrounding him, but he has learned what to do with all their talent and his own. Can he keep up this pace the rest of the season? The Magic 8 Ball says "Outlook looks good". Will he be able to keep it up next season? That remains to be seen. This year, however, he's top "dog".

11-17-2010, 04:58 PM	#35
11toby Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 55	As for Vick, he sure looks great this season, but we still have HALF the season left to play. Originally Posted by saintsfan601 I think in Hasletts case he's one of those rare guys that is a better head coach then he is a coordinator.I feel like he should have been allowed to stay the head coach of the Rams. HMMM I dunno about that. The Rams went 2-10 with Has at interim coach and I remember they lost 10 in a row, some of the loses were major blowout drubbings. You think they Rams should have kept him as HC? I think as an interim coach you have to pull at least a close to .500 record to be considered for hire.
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11-17-2010, 05:27 PM	#36
saintsfan601 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Meridian MS Posts: 259	HMMM I dunno about that. The Rams went 2-10 with Has at interim coach and I remember they lost 10 in a row, some of the loses were major blowout drubbings. You think they Rams should have kept him as HC? I think as an interim coach you have to pull at least a close to .500 record to be considered for hire. I think to get two wins out of that team was great coaching.The only player on that team worth anything was Stephen Jackson.I don't think Bill Walsh,Vince Lombardi,Jimmy Johnson,Sean Peyton,or any other coach could have gotten more than two wins out of that team.

11-17-2010, 09:00 PM	#38
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	Originally Posted by OldMaid He should not be in the NFL. He should have not been allowed back. Playing football for a living , THE FEW YEARS ONE CAN DO SO is not a right,but a PRIVILEGE. We'll we are a country that forgives after they serve their time for their wrong "OR theoretically forgive" for that matter sometimes people pick who they want to forgive for certain things.. The man's done his time, he's given public service as ordered by the courts, paid his due's, unless you want to have him hung for his crimes i think once he's done all he's had to do for his crimes he should be free to once again use his craft, if a company be it "NFL, Construction yard, Walmart etc" wants to hire him to help themselves better their own franchise, business or corporation they have the right hire and pay him for his services they think he's worth and he has the right to earn it. No one was required to hire Vick, they came to him because they saw some use left in him, we gotta have that in mind when we think he's getting off easy.

11-17-2010, 04:26 PM	#31
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11-17-2010, 04:34 PM	#33
saintsfan601 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Meridian MS Posts: 259	okay I kept seeing page four everytime I clicked on this thread.Sorry about the useless post.It's fixed now.It may have just been a problem on my end.

11-17-2010, 07:18 PM	#37
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	He should not be in the NFL. He should have not been allowed back. Playing football for a living , THE FEW YEARS ONE CAN DO SO is not a right,but a PRIVILEGE.

11-18-2010, 03:40 AM	#39
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Saintswrath We'll we are a country that forgives after they serve their time for their wrong "OR theoretically forgive" for that matter sometimes people pick who they want to forgive for certain things.. The man's done his time, he's given public service as ordered by the courts, paid his due's, unless you want to have him hung for his crimes i think once he's done all he's had to do for his crimes he should be free to once again use his craft, if a company be it "NFL, Construction yard, Walmart etc" wants to hire him to help themselves better their own franchise, business or corporation they have the right hire and pay him for his services they think he's worth and he has the right to earn it. No one was required to hire Vick, they came to him because they saw some use left in him, we gotta have that in mind when we think he's getting off easy. Well said. A buddy and I were discussing Michael Vick last night, and we came to a conclusion. The majority of sports fans have a short-term memory about a player's wrongdoings after a couple of years, especially when they have incredible seasons on the field or court. Ray Lewis, Kobe Bryant, Pete Rose, just to name a few. Winning or sympathy seem to give people a slight case of amnesia. It's not that we completely forget what they did in their past, but for many of us, it sure isn't the first thing we think of in the present.

11-18-2010, 04:36 AM	#40
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon. How many Super Bowl rings does Vick have? Slow down folks, would be my suggestion. If Vick pulls off what Marino did, get back to us.
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