Is Micheal Vick the best QB in the NFL?

papz · 11-16-2010, 08:47 AM

When Brees stunk it up this year against those fast 3-4 defenses, Vick would've been the perfect counter to that. Payton obviously has no faith in Daniels as he kept Brees in way too long (Arizona, Atlanta, Cleveland).

You don't pull All Pro/Hall of Fame quarterbacks even if they're struggling. Brees is one of the top quarterbacks in the league... that would have been a slap in the face. You'd never see Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, etc. pulled for a game unless is a complete blowout... why would Brees be an exception?

Correlating that into Payton having no faith in Daniels does not relate. Our starting quarterback isn't Alex Smith or Chad Henne... it's Drew Brees. We would have a veteran quarterback backing up Brees if Payton had "no faith" in Chase Daniels.

dizzle88 · 11-16-2010, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by papz

You don't pull All Pro/Hall of Fame quarterbacks even if they're struggling. Brees is one of the top quarterbacks in the league... that would have been a slap in the face. You'd never see Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, etc. pulled for a game unless is a complete blowout... why would Brees be an exception?

Correlating that into Payton having no faith in Daniels does not relate. Our starting quarterback isn't Alex Smith or Chad Henne... it's Drew Brees. We would have a veteran quarterback backing up Brees if Payton had "no faith" in Chase Daniels.

Exactly Right.
The only thing that would have happened if we pulled brees for some other QB or Mike Vick, would be that we would create a contraversy and basically alienated a guy that has pretty much been the saviour of the city and the organisation. As papz said, Brees is an all pro and i'm going to say will be a hall of famer once his career is over, Mike Vick is playing well but Brees is way way way better. Vick is just a change of pace for the Eagles, i do admit hes playing real well.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 11-16-2010, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

No offense but i disagree. Brees played so bad in the Browns game that he should've been pulled at half time. IMO, no one in the NFL is exempt from being pulled, even Brees, Peyton, and Favre.

Payton has no confidence in Daniel, and it showed. If we had Vick we would be undefeated now. Vick is "the answer" to those fast 3-4 defenses of Pitt, Balt, N England.

Even though we disagree, we can still share a cold one at the end of the day bro.

Funny how you give Vick all this man-love and call him "the answer", yet Sharper, with all his career accomplishments, is an "OK player".

SAINT_MICHAEL · 11-16-2010, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

It's all about performing on the field bro. You can call it man love or whatever but Vick is handling his business and setting NFL records. What has Sharper done? 1 forced fumble and a fumble recovery from a massive hit by Marvin Mitchell? Not exactly recording setting stuff.

Still two different positions, don't even try and compare the two.

I wasn't comparing the positions. I was comparing the credit you are giving a player who has had a hand full of good games this year in an otherwise mundane career to the lack of credit you gave to a player that has had a Hall of Fame career. Sharper owns records as well. If it's all about performance on the field, then a comparison of Vick's and Sharper's careers leaves no doubt who has been the better performer.

11-16-2010, 08:47 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	When Brees stunk it up this year against those fast 3-4 defenses, Vick would've been the perfect counter to that. Payton obviously has no faith in Daniels as he kept Brees in way too long (Arizona, Atlanta, Cleveland). You don't pull All Pro/Hall of Fame quarterbacks even if they're struggling. Brees is one of the top quarterbacks in the league... that would have been a slap in the face. You'd never see Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, etc. pulled for a game unless is a complete blowout... why would Brees be an exception? Correlating that into Payton having no faith in Daniels does not relate. Our starting quarterback isn't Alex Smith or Chad Henne... it's Drew Brees. We would have a veteran quarterback backing up Brees if Payton had "no faith" in Chase Daniels.
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11-16-2010, 09:01 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,542	Originally Posted by papz You don't pull All Pro/Hall of Fame quarterbacks even if they're struggling. Brees is one of the top quarterbacks in the league... that would have been a slap in the face. You'd never see Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, etc. pulled for a game unless is a complete blowout... why would Brees be an exception? Correlating that into Payton having no faith in Daniels does not relate. Our starting quarterback isn't Alex Smith or Chad Henne... it's Drew Brees. We would have a veteran quarterback backing up Brees if Payton had "no faith" in Chase Daniels. Exactly Right. The only thing that would have happened if we pulled brees for some other QB or Mike Vick, would be that we would create a contraversy and basically alienated a guy that has pretty much been the saviour of the city and the organisation. As papz said, Brees is an all pro and i'm going to say will be a hall of famer once his career is over, Mike Vick is playing well but Brees is way way way better. Vick is just a change of pace for the Eagles, i do admit hes playing real well.
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11-16-2010, 06:49 PM	#3
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by Mr Magic No offense but i disagree. Brees played so bad in the Browns game that he should've been pulled at half time. IMO, no one in the NFL is exempt from being pulled, even Brees, Peyton, and Favre. Payton has no confidence in Daniel, and it showed. If we had Vick we would be undefeated now. Vick is "the answer" to those fast 3-4 defenses of Pitt, Balt, N England. Even though we disagree, we can still share a cold one at the end of the day bro. Funny how you give Vick all this man-love and call him "the answer", yet Sharper, with all his career accomplishments, is an "OK player".
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11-16-2010, 07:10 PM	#4
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by Mr Magic It's all about performing on the field bro. You can call it man love or whatever but Vick is handling his business and setting NFL records. What has Sharper done? 1 forced fumble and a fumble recovery from a massive hit by Marvin Mitchell? Not exactly recording setting stuff. Still two different positions, don't even try and compare the two. I wasn't comparing the positions. I was comparing the credit you are giving a player who has had a hand full of good games this year in an otherwise mundane career to the lack of credit you gave to a player that has had a Hall of Fame career. Sharper owns records as well. If it's all about performance on the field, then a comparison of Vick's and Sharper's careers leaves no doubt who has been the better performer.
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