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jeanpierre 03-20-2013 08:09 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I'm not sure Nnamdi offers the best bang for the buck...

And talking with friends that are Eagles fans that aren't stereo-typical Dome Stumbling types but actually know something -tell me he seemed past his prime and wasn't worth half the money...

Plus, it's been document he's selfish and self-centered...

I'd rather go younger and sign a Safety like Huff and give us flexibility and youth...

Greer and Robinson are going nowhere unless traded as money is either guaranteed or costs little and will provide depth...

So why sign an aged corner with limited cap space and the upcoming Graham signing?!?

dizzle88 03-20-2013 08:16 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 488315)
I'm not sure Nnamdi offers the best bang for the buck...

And talking with friends that are Eagles fans that aren't stereo-typical Dome Stumbling types but actually know something -tell me he seemed past his prime and wasn't worth half the money...

Plus, it's been document he's selfish and self-centered...

I'd rather go younger and sign a Safety like Huff and give us flexibility and youth...

Greer and Robinson are going nowhere unless traded as money is either guaranteed or costs little and will provide depth...

So why sign an aged corner with limited cap space and the upcoming Graham signing?!?

They said the same thing about Charles Woodson when the packers signed him, it worked out well for them

Joker 03-20-2013 08:19 AM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
I've said this on a earlier thread, sign the man if he's cheap or cost effective but not at the expense of Greer or White. If NA wants to much money take a pass and let Rob earn his money and coach what we have. I believe Robinson can play he just needs someone to coach him and with the addition of Lewis I believe our secondary is shaping up. Greer was hurt last year, I believe if he stays healthy he's just as good as any other corner with the exception of Revis and other exceptional corners.
The saints need to improve on the non existent pass rush. If we continue to give QB's all day to throw the ball then it really doesn't matter who you sign at corner including Revis they will get picked apart.

burningmetal 03-20-2013 08:55 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 488315)
I'm not sure Nnamdi offers the best bang for the buck...

And talking with friends that are Eagles fans that aren't stereo-typical Dome Stumbling types but actually know something -tell me he seemed past his prime and wasn't worth half the money...

Plus, it's been document he's selfish and self-centered...

I'd rather go younger and sign a Safety like Huff and give us flexibility and youth...

Greer and Robinson are going nowhere unless traded as money is either guaranteed or costs little and will provide depth...

So why sign an aged corner with limited cap space and the upcoming Graham signing?!?

With all due respect, while I understand your point about wanting younger guys and spending less money, this is a rather large assumption. One that many keep making.

No one knows what Nnamdi is asking for. You can rest assured that if his price IS too high, though, the Saints will not sign him.

And about going after younger guys... Because of their age, those guys will demand more money, regardless of their reputation. Unless they absolutely suck. In which case, we don't need those kind of players anyway.

A lot of people seem concerned with how we would dispose of either Greer or Robinson in a way that wouldn't cause a significant cap hit, should we sign Asomugha. But if we DO go after, say, Michael Huff, then what happens with Jenkins or Harper? I'm all for an upgrade at any of these positions, but we're going to be faced with the same questions no matter who we bring in. Someone will have to go. It's just the way it is.

lee909 03-20-2013 09:02 AM

I still think we are better trying to sign Volmer in a long term deal or McKinney on a short term contract and draft OLB/CB In rounds 1-3.

TheEnigma 03-20-2013 10:11 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 488260)
Robinson probably but this might be the year he bounce back. Remember he our 1st rd pick and he only been in the league 3 yrs. 1st time as a legitimate starter. I bet if anybody invested s much s the saints did will not be so quick to give up on him

Sedrick Ellis was also our first round pick and look how bad that turned out. Just because a player is drafted in the first round doesn't mean that player will be good. Robinson is terrible and that is why we are going after these CB's in the first place. If Robinson was good, we wouldn't need to bring in anyone.

alexonfyre 03-20-2013 11:17 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 488315)
I'm not sure Nnamdi offers the best bang for the buck...

Plus, it's been document he's selfish and self-centered...

This statement is patently false.

See below:

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Originally Posted by NOLA.com
Though he is lauded as a great person off the field and in the community, Asomugha has also been known as more of an intellectual with interests that go beyond the football field. His passion for the game has reportedly been questioned at times - though it may be re-ignited with his desire to start fresh.

Mixed opinions on whether Nnamdi Asomugha would be good gamble for New Orleans Saints | NOLA.com

alexonfyre 03-20-2013 11:29 AM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
I think someone may have already said this, and correct me if I'm wrong, but won't we often use Roman Harper as a blitzing safety instead of a fourth linebacker, and put 3 corners and a Jenkins back in coverage? It's still a 3-4 and not our nickel set, which we would also use from time to time, so I get the impression that, if we had all of these guys, we would have 3 corners on the field more often than not.

jeanpierre 03-20-2013 11:43 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 488334)
With all due respect, while I understand your point about wanting younger guys and spending less money, this is a rather large assumption. One that many keep making.

Understand ya, feel ya, and I say just look at the singing of Keenan Lewis, highest rated performing cornerback in 2012, and his contract - players are there, younger and available and this is a buyer's market for corners this season...

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 488334)
No one knows what Nnamdi is asking for. You can rest assured that if his price IS too high, though, the Saints will not sign him.

See Will Smith and Roman Harper Contracts; Jason David in Free Agency; Loomis et al have engaged in some bad contracts...

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 488334)
And about going after younger guys... Because of their age, those guys will demand more money, regardless of their reputation. Unless they absolutely suck. In which case, we don't need those kind of players anyway.

Keenan Lewis? Very Reasonable contract. Those contracts are available...

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 488334)
A lot of people seem concerned with how we would dispose of either Greer or Robinson in a way that wouldn't cause a significant cap hit, should we sign Asomugha.

There would be no significant cap savings in cutting either Greer (guaranteed contract) nor Robinson (Low rent Rookie contract); the only way there leaving is to free a roster spot, either by release or trade value...

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 488334)
But if we DO go after, say, Michael Huff, then what happens with Jenkins or Harper? I'm all for an upgrade at any of these positions, but we're going to be faced with the same questions no matter who we bring in. Someone will have to go. It's just the way it is.

Jenkins has not shown progression nor development as a free safety; I feel he's be best suited as a cornerback or a Strong Safety...

Harper is a liability and is being paid way over his spot in the food chain...

Huff shifted to cornerback for the Raiders and has shown his depth of skills and attitude in doing so...

Signing Huff now would accomplish

(1) An upgrade at Safety like that of Darren Sharper's impact...

(2) A transition plan for the coming seasons when Jenkins' contract will expire...

(3) Some Cap relief, at the very least leverage, in getting Harper's contract at an appropriate level; and Huff should have a market friendly price...

I'm really hoping Nnamdi goes to San Fran and the Saints FO move on Huff...

If Nnamdi comes, I'm down with it, I'm just not buying his jersey or watching his movie/media career...


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