Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls

SmashMouth · 12-10-2013, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

I never heard Sherman use the term "bad calls". He said the refs calls "affected the game". The problem that I see is inconsistency. Most weeks they allow grabbing of the jersey but this week they didn't. The Hawks had every break in the world go against them (blocked punt, 53 yard field goal, weird offensive penalties) and yet lost by two points and had the lead until the last drive. Just let the teams decide the game is all I am saying. As far as the future goes, the Niners have scored one touchdown on us all year...

Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest. I am sure it was a factor and it "affected the game" as Shermy puts it.

Seahawks12th · 12-10-2013, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest. I am sure it was a factor and it "affected the game" as Shermy puts it.

Guilty as charged... :P I think you have to either call it or not...

|Mitch| · 12-10-2013, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest.

Have you watched any of their games this year? That's how they play... I guess being labeled a "big physical corner" makes the refs look the other way when they're holding the receivers

Seahawks12th · 12-10-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Have you watched any of their games this year? That's how they play... I guess being labeled a "big physical corner" makes the refs look the other way when they're holding the receivers

This stuff isn't going to be called in the playoffs. I heard an analyst compare the Seahawks to the New York Knicks. They beat you up and force the refs to call the fouls. If the refs don't call it then you would be stupid not to do it. Teams cheat all the time.. Justin Smith holds lineman on every play and yet I have never heard a seahawks fan complain about it??

You can brush off the "big physical corner" all you want but we have legally sent many a receiver to the sidelines. They are extremely physical and yes they hold.. All teams do by the way, that's why it isn't called; if the Seahawks were the only team then they would be targeted. Teams are going to have to play through it, Jim Harbaugh chooses to whine through it.

|Mitch| · 12-10-2013, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

They are extremely physical and yes they hold.. All teams do by the way, that's why it isn't called; if the Seahawks were the only team then they would be targeted. Teams are going to have to play through it, Jim Harbaugh chooses to whine through it.

But yet Sherman complains when he finally didn't get away with it

And if you say that it wasn't a form of complaining when he went on about the "benefit of calls"; you're full of it...

Seahawks12th · 12-10-2013, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

But yet Sherman complains when he finally didn't get away with it

And if you say that it wasn't a form of complaining when he went on about the "benefit of calls"; you're full of it...

I think he is frustrated because of the lack of consistency, maybe a better way of putting it was it "affected THEIR play", that was the gist of his frustration. The Seahawks lost and deserve it. The 49ers won the game on Gore's run and they kicked the winning field goal but there is a world of difference between blaming the game on bad calls and saying that choosing to enforce calls that are not a point of emphasis for most referees.

Sherman is defiant. He gets into petty stuff and many Hawk fans get annoyed with him sometimes but most of his stuff is off the field. As long as he is not getting into trouble with the law and plays within the confines of the team, I don't give a sh*t what he does.

Your third point, perhaps I can be full of it from time to time...

|Mitch| · 12-10-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

I think he is frustrated because of the lack of consistency, maybe a better way of putting it was it "affected THEIR play", that was the gist of his frustration.

Isn't that the same as being frustrated because he "didn't" get away with holding like he always does?

Change of subject, but how is the loss of KJ Wright going to affect the defense? I have no idea who the second in line is, but curious to know whether the LB corps will take a significant production hit?

Seahawks12th · 12-10-2013, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Isn't that the same as being frustrated because he "didn't" get away with holding like he always does?

Change of subject, but how is the loss of KJ Wright going to affect the defense? I have no idea who the second in line is, but curious to know whether the LB corps will take a significant production hit?

That is a warped way of putting it but yes you are correct. Not blaming officials for bad calls but blaming officials for not letting them get away with it LOL.

KJ Wright will depend on how long he it out. Where he is valuable is in the Seahawks Zone defense. It would hurt them a lot more against the Saints then against the 49ers. The Saints like to plant Jimmy Graham over the middle and KJ Wright has freakishly long arms and for whatever he lacks for in height he makes up for it in length. Bobby Wagner in not nearly as effective with tight ends. Speed tight ends like Davis don't hurt the Hawks because of Chancellor and Wagner on the back end but Graham would cause significant problems over the middle if Wright is not back for that game. They would probably put chancellor on him man to man and that would put a lot of pressure on Earl Thomas to defend the back end. Preliminary reports were 4-6 weeks but they will have a more accurate timetable after surgery. They don't need him until the playoffs thank god..

12-10-2013, 03:28 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,816 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls Originally Posted by Seahawks12th I never heard Sherman use the term "bad calls". He said the refs calls "affected the game". The problem that I see is inconsistency. Most weeks they allow grabbing of the jersey but this week they didn't. The Hawks had every break in the world go against them (blocked punt, 53 yard field goal, weird offensive penalties) and yet lost by two points and had the lead until the last drive. Just let the teams decide the game is all I am saying. As far as the future goes, the Niners have scored one touchdown on us all year... Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest. I am sure it was a factor and it "affected the game" as Shermy puts it.

12-10-2013, 03:34 PM	#2
Seahawks12th 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 188	Re: Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls Originally Posted by SmashMouth Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest. I am sure it was a factor and it "affected the game" as Shermy puts it. Guilty as charged... :P I think you have to either call it or not...

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls Originally Posted by SmashMouth Come to think of it, there sure was plenty of jersey grabbing during the Saints vs Seahawks contest. Have you watched any of their games this year? That's how they play... I guess being labeled a "big physical corner" makes the refs look the other way when they're holding the receivers

12-10-2013, 03:43 PM	#4
Seahawks12th 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 188	Re: Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Have you watched any of their games this year? That's how they play... I guess being labeled a "big physical corner" makes the refs look the other way when they're holding the receivers This stuff isn't going to be called in the playoffs. I heard an analyst compare the Seahawks to the New York Knicks. They beat you up and force the refs to call the fouls. If the refs don't call it then you would be stupid not to do it. Teams cheat all the time.. Justin Smith holds lineman on every play and yet I have never heard a seahawks fan complain about it?? You can brush off the "big physical corner" all you want but we have legally sent many a receiver to the sidelines. They are extremely physical and yes they hold.. All teams do by the way, that's why it isn't called; if the Seahawks were the only team then they would be targeted. Teams are going to have to play through it, Jim Harbaugh chooses to whine through it.

12-10-2013, 03:50 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls Originally Posted by Seahawks12th They are extremely physical and yes they hold.. All teams do by the way, that's why it isn't called; if the Seahawks were the only team then they would be targeted. Teams are going to have to play through it, Jim Harbaugh chooses to whine through it. But yet Sherman complains when he finally didn't get away with it And if you say that it wasn't a form of complaining when he went on about the "benefit of calls"; you're full of it...

12-10-2013, 04:23 PM	#6
Seahawks12th 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 188	Re: Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| But yet Sherman complains when he finally didn't get away with it And if you say that it wasn't a form of complaining when he went on about the "benefit of calls"; you're full of it... I think he is frustrated because of the lack of consistency, maybe a better way of putting it was it "affected THEIR play", that was the gist of his frustration. The Seahawks lost and deserve it. The 49ers won the game on Gore's run and they kicked the winning field goal but there is a world of difference between blaming the game on bad calls and saying that choosing to enforce calls that are not a point of emphasis for most referees. Sherman is defiant. He gets into petty stuff and many Hawk fans get annoyed with him sometimes but most of his stuff is off the field. As long as he is not getting into trouble with the law and plays within the confines of the team, I don't give a sh*t what he does. Your third point, perhaps I can be full of it from time to time...

12-10-2013, 04:36 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls Originally Posted by Seahawks12th I think he is frustrated because of the lack of consistency, maybe a better way of putting it was it "affected THEIR play", that was the gist of his frustration. Isn't that the same as being frustrated because he "didn't" get away with holding like he always does? Change of subject, but how is the loss of KJ Wright going to affect the defense? I have no idea who the second in line is, but curious to know whether the LB corps will take a significant production hit?

12-10-2013, 04:51 PM	#8
Seahawks12th 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 188	Re: Sherman expected blowout win, blames loss on bad calls Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Isn't that the same as being frustrated because he "didn't" get away with holding like he always does? Change of subject, but how is the loss of KJ Wright going to affect the defense? I have no idea who the second in line is, but curious to know whether the LB corps will take a significant production hit? That is a warped way of putting it but yes you are correct. Not blaming officials for bad calls but blaming officials for not letting them get away with it LOL. KJ Wright will depend on how long he it out. Where he is valuable is in the Seahawks Zone defense. It would hurt them a lot more against the Saints then against the 49ers. The Saints like to plant Jimmy Graham over the middle and KJ Wright has freakishly long arms and for whatever he lacks for in height he makes up for it in length. Bobby Wagner in not nearly as effective with tight ends. Speed tight ends like Davis don't hurt the Hawks because of Chancellor and Wagner on the back end but Graham would cause significant problems over the middle if Wright is not back for that game. They would probably put chancellor on him man to man and that would put a lot of pressure on Earl Thomas to defend the back end. Preliminary reports were 4-6 weeks but they will have a more accurate timetable after surgery. They don't need him until the playoffs thank god..

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