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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Michael Sam is a hypocrite. He can go blow or suck smoke up someone else's ass. He comes out making it about him and being gay. The makes a public statement that he wishes it could be "just about football". ...

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Old 05-15-2014, 06:32 AM   #21
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Michael Sam is a hypocrite. He can go blow or suck smoke up someone else's ass.

He comes out making it about him and being gay.

The makes a public statement that he wishes it could be "just about football".

Well Sam, if you wanted it to be about football you wouldn't have agreed to a reality show about your time in the NFL with Opera on her network.

4 days after the draft? Sam was planning this before he was drafted and I'll bet the Rams didn't know.

He and his drama wagon will get cut or end up on the practice squad at best.
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Old 05-15-2014, 06:54 AM   #22
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I was quite happy to defend hos right to want his sexuality forgotten. You cant have it both ways, you are supposes to be football player not a flag waiving celebrity. This is going to ramp up the media attention and any decisions the Rams make will be under the microscope x1000. If he is cut it wont be long before rumours of locker room unrest etc surface. This was set up before the draft and is wrong.

"I dont want to be known as Michael Sam the gay football player, I want it to be about Michael Sam the football player".
The refusal to talk to the media predraft now just looks a sham.


Its a shame as had this just been kept to being about him as a football player that announced he was gay and it was then left as tge non story it is would have done more for homosexuals in sport than this will. The decision to have a tv show/documentary will make morw teams wary of drafting a gay player in the future.
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:22 AM   #23
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Well, he was a 7th round pick 8 picks from the draft being over and used a compensatory pick... On a team fairly deep at DE... I think it looks more like someone did the NFL a favor and drafted him so he would get drafted.

Can I blame him for wanting to cash in while he can? No... But call it what it is and don't pretend it is something else to try and gain favor from the purists that care more about football than social issues. I agree with you Lee, all this did was further the notion that there would be a drama filled side show and not just a football player getting a shot in the NFL. While I am sure there will be some snarky comments about this reply, it is what it is. I said his sexuality was moot and should have stayed that way, those that want to push their own agenda got all hurt and defensive. I care as much about who Sam screws as I do about where Tebow keeps his bible... I dont. Roger Goodell is not doing as much to destroy this game for me as agenda pushers and ratings seekers.

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Old 05-15-2014, 07:30 AM   #24
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I miss the days of reading sports stories and articles on players not on there off field discretions or incidents.

This is what I want to read from sports collomists
http://www.cnnsi.com/vault/article/m...8082/index.htm

Little Big LinebackerSam Mills, the Saints' 5'9" fireplug, is often the shortest man on the field—until he cuts opposing players down to size

THE SAM MILLS STORY, SHORT VERSION: In the fall of 1976 there was a truly great high school linebacker named Sam Mills Jr. But no big-time college football teams wanted him, because he was only 5'9". Four years later Mills was a truly great small-college linebacker. But no NFL team wanted him, because he was only 5'9". He couldn't find work in the Canadian Football League, either. You know why. So Mills found a job teaching photography and assisting the football coach at East Orange (N.J.) High School.

In January 1983, two years after Mills had played his final college game, the USFL was born, and he earned a spot on the Philadelphia Stars. By season's close, Mills led the Stars in tackles. He led the Stars in tackles the next year, too, and the next (by which time the team was playing in Baltimore). When the USFL disbanded after the 1985 season, the New Orleans Saints hired Jim Mora, who had coached the Stars, as their coach. Mora, in turn, hired our little hero.



Not about player X having a affair or player Y buying his girlfriend a $125000 engagement ring. Or his views on anything baring football.
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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 View Post
My 2 cents comes on the same coin.

Religious beliefs are bashed because of one reason. The fact that pretty much every war from the beginning of time has been over religion. Lets be honest, its not just religious beliefs or a certain religion, its all religion has been a problem and is still a problem today.

As for the dolphins player suspended for this tweets, the issue here is that freedom of speech seems to no longer be free, he had a concern, a valid one since ESPN showed that footage and was probably in the wrong to do so. Biggest problems come with it as well, Michael Sam openly admits to it and is milking every bit of this he can for fame, and these news outlets are gobbling it up.

If you ask me, I think Michael Sam is going to be a headcase regardless of if hes gay or not.
This such utter crap. It's complete BS. War is about economics. Always has been and always will. On a rare occasion something like the Crusades happen but it's an outlier. The two World Wars, and every war America has ever been involved in in no way had anything to do with religion. I can't think of a single 19th century war that had anything to do with religion and even the turmois brought about by the Reformation weren't really about religion but more about limiting the powers of the Catholic Church.

If you want bash religion go ahead, it's your right but at least get your facts straight.
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The two World Wars, and every war America has ever been involved in in no way had anything to do with religion.

6 million dead Jews would disagree with you... You know, if they weren't massacred because of their religion.
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6 million dead Jews would disagree with you... You know, if they weren't massacred because of their religion.
They weren't murdered because of their religious beliefs. Where in the world did you get that from?
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They weren't murdered because of their religious beliefs. Where in the world did you get that from?

The Jews were used as scapegoats... Therefore to say that America has never fought in any war that involved religion is false. No, they weren't targeted because of ideology, but by virtue of being Jewish and that is indeed a religion.
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The Jews were used as scapegoats... Therefore to say that America has never fought in any war that involved religion is false. No, they weren't targeted because of ideology, but by virtue of being Jewish and that is indeed a religion.

True but that was Hitler's issue not America's. So what are we arguing again? I'm lost.
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And on that note!
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