NFL Double Standard?

Boutte · 05-20-2014, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

My 2 cents comes on the same coin.

Religious beliefs are bashed because of one reason. The fact that pretty much every war from the beginning of time has been over religion. Lets be honest, its not just religious beliefs or a certain religion, its all religion has been a problem and is still a problem today.

As for the dolphins player suspended for this tweets, the issue here is that freedom of speech seems to no longer be free, he had a concern, a valid one since ESPN showed that footage and was probably in the wrong to do so. Biggest problems come with it as well, Michael Sam openly admits to it and is milking every bit of this he can for fame, and these news outlets are gobbling it up.

If you ask me, I think Michael Sam is going to be a headcase regardless of if hes gay or not.

This such utter crap. It's complete BS. War is about economics. Always has been and always will. On a rare occasion something like the Crusades happen but it's an outlier. The two World Wars, and every war America has ever been involved in in no way had anything to do with religion. I can't think of a single 19th century war that had anything to do with religion and even the turmois brought about by the Reformation weren't really about religion but more about limiting the powers of the Catholic Church.

If you want bash religion go ahead, it's your right but at least get your facts straight.

ChrisXVI · 05-20-2014, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

The two World Wars, and every war America has ever been involved in in no way had anything to do with religion.

6 million dead Jews would disagree with you... You know, if they weren't massacred because of their religion.

Danno · 05-20-2014, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

6 million dead Jews would disagree with you... You know, if they weren't massacred because of their religion.

They weren't murdered because of their religious beliefs. Where in the world did you get that from?

ChrisXVI · 05-20-2014, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

They weren't murdered because of their religious beliefs. Where in the world did you get that from?

The Jews were used as scapegoats... Therefore to say that America has never fought in any war that involved religion is false. No, they weren't targeted because of ideology, but by virtue of being Jewish and that is indeed a religion.

exile · 05-20-2014, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

The Jews were used as scapegoats... Therefore to say that America has never fought in any war that involved religion is false. No, they weren't targeted because of ideology, but by virtue of being Jewish and that is indeed a religion.

True but that was Hitler's issue not America's. So what are we arguing again? I'm lost.

05-20-2014, 05:39 PM	#1
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: NFL Double Standard? Originally Posted by Vrillon82 My 2 cents comes on the same coin. Religious beliefs are bashed because of one reason. The fact that pretty much every war from the beginning of time has been over religion. Lets be honest, its not just religious beliefs or a certain religion, its all religion has been a problem and is still a problem today. As for the dolphins player suspended for this tweets, the issue here is that freedom of speech seems to no longer be free, he had a concern, a valid one since ESPN showed that footage and was probably in the wrong to do so. Biggest problems come with it as well, Michael Sam openly admits to it and is milking every bit of this he can for fame, and these news outlets are gobbling it up. If you ask me, I think Michael Sam is going to be a headcase regardless of if hes gay or not. This such utter crap. It's complete BS. War is about economics. Always has been and always will. On a rare occasion something like the Crusades happen but it's an outlier. The two World Wars, and every war America has ever been involved in in no way had anything to do with religion. I can't think of a single 19th century war that had anything to do with religion and even the turmois brought about by the Reformation weren't really about religion but more about limiting the powers of the Catholic Church. If you want bash religion go ahead, it's your right but at least get your facts straight. Danno and exile like this.

05-20-2014, 06:15 PM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: NFL Double Standard? Originally Posted by Boutte The two World Wars, and every war America has ever been involved in in no way had anything to do with religion. 6 million dead Jews would disagree with you... You know, if they weren't massacred because of their religion.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: NFL Double Standard? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI 6 million dead Jews would disagree with you... You know, if they weren't massacred because of their religion. They weren't murdered because of their religious beliefs. Where in the world did you get that from?

05-20-2014, 07:32 PM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	NFL Double Standard? Originally Posted by Danno They weren't murdered because of their religious beliefs. Where in the world did you get that from? The Jews were used as scapegoats... Therefore to say that America has never fought in any war that involved religion is false. No, they weren't targeted because of ideology, but by virtue of being Jewish and that is indeed a religion.

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exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: NFL Double Standard? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI The Jews were used as scapegoats... Therefore to say that America has never fought in any war that involved religion is false. No, they weren't targeted because of ideology, but by virtue of being Jewish and that is indeed a religion. True but that was Hitler's issue not America's. So what are we arguing again? I'm lost.
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