Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady

burningmetal · 05-07-2015, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

NE was leading that game 17-7 at halftime when they checked the ball pressure. After it was corrected (?), they scored 28 points with properly inflated balls in the second half? I don't see the "advantage" angle of underinflated balls.

Lot of circumstantial evidence vs Brady. Sure I think he knew what was going on (what pro QB wouldn't?), but prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, . Sure would be nice if the NFL would have instituted a policy of checking the air pressure at halftime prior to this game so we would have some sort of benchmark to compare it with. Without it, it almost looks like a witch-hunt.

Does it rise to the the level of an Alex Rodriguez, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong? (Baseball sure has a lot of cheaters, ) IDK, a-rules-a-rule though and I'm sure however RG handles it, it will be wrong, .

To be honest, I don't really care if they inflated or deflated their testicles. It makes no difference to me. Though it seems pretty obvious they did, and Brady lied about it. What bothers me is that they were so quick to then call it circumstantial and not hard evidence. That may be so, but as has been pointed out, the same could be said for the Saints situation and they jumped all over us.

Idiots will be quick to say "oh yeah but that's totally different". Is it? Because of what we were ASSUMED to have done was much worse we don't get the circumstantial excuse? Either you have the evidence or you don't. It doesn't matter the extent of the accusations. Kraft is always kissing Roger's butt, and now the reverse is happening and it is quite annoying.

SmashMouth · 05-08-2015, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

To be honest, I don't really care if they inflated or deflated their testicles. It makes no difference to me. Though it seems pretty obvious they did, and Brady lied about it. What bothers me is that they were so quick to then call it circumstantial and not hard evidence. That may be so, but as has been pointed out, the same could be said for the Saints situation and they jumped all over us.

Idiots will be quick to say "oh yeah but that's totally different". Is it? Because of what we were ASSUMED to have done was much worse we don't get the circumstantial excuse? Either you have the evidence or you don't. It doesn't matter the extent of the accusations. Kraft is always kissing Roger's butt, and now the reverse is happening and it is quite annoying.

Speaking of deez nuts...

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saintfan · 05-08-2015, 09:35 AM

Tipper flew and Tyler knew.

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Mardigras9 · 05-08-2015, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

NE was leading that game 17-7 at halftime when they checked the ball pressure. After it was corrected (?), they scored 28 points with properly inflated balls in the second half? I don't see the "advantage" angle of underinflated balls.

I agree, it really didn't matter in that game at all. BUT, knowingly breaking the rules to try gain an advantage is still cheating and should be punished. I see this as a more direct infraction on the game itself than defensive players having a monitary incentive to play and hit harder. Let me say here though, I totally agree if the defense goes out and purposefully tries to hurt another player, they should be penalized. We were handed a huge penalty for something everybody knew most teams did. If the patriots slip by AGAIN being cold busted, then the league as whole should revolt.

SmashMouth · 05-09-2015, 11:06 AM

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SloMotion · 05-09-2015, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

To be honest, I don't really care if they inflated or deflated their testicles. It makes no difference to me. Though it seems pretty obvious they did, and Brady lied about it. What bothers me is that they were so quick to then call it circumstantial and not hard evidence. That may be so, but as has been pointed out, the same could be said for the Saints situation and they jumped all over us.

Idiots will be quick to say "oh yeah but that's totally different". Is it? Because of what we were ASSUMED to have done was much worse we don't get the circumstantial excuse? Either you have the evidence or you don't. It doesn't matter the extent of the accusations. Kraft is always kissing Roger's butt, and now the reverse is happening and it is quite annoying.

I'm not really comparing Bountygate to Deflategate and am just confident that Roger will handle Deflategate with the same ineptitude that he handled Bountygate and any other of his responsibilities to the league.

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burningmetal · 05-10-2015, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

I'm not really comparing Bountygate to Deflategate and am just confident that Roger will handle Deflategate with the same ineptitude that he handled Bountygate and any other of his responsibilities to the league. .

I wasn't suggesting you were comparing the two. I wanted to make the comparison myself because I don't see that much is happening to the Patriots here. People are talking about witch hunt, but it was the Colts who brought this thing up. I think the NFL just pretended to do a real investigation so as not to be accused of negligence.

The rambling of the report and the dismissal of everything as being circumstantial, along with the empty "more probable than not" line seems like their way of pretending to be impartial while not really doing anything to the Patriots. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the relationship between Goodell and Kraft is known, and I have never been given a reason to NOT question Roger's credibility... Just my opinion though.

Either way, I agree that he will screw it all up. That much is a given.

05-07-2015, 11:44 PM	#31
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady Originally Posted by SloMotion NE was leading that game 17-7 at halftime when they checked the ball pressure. After it was corrected (?), they scored 28 points with properly inflated balls in the second half? I don't see the "advantage" angle of underinflated balls. Lot of circumstantial evidence vs Brady. Sure I think he knew what was going on (what pro QB wouldn't?), but prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, . Sure would be nice if the NFL would have instituted a policy of checking the air pressure at halftime prior to this game so we would have some sort of benchmark to compare it with. Without it, it almost looks like a witch-hunt. Does it rise to the the level of an Alex Rodriguez, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong? (Baseball sure has a lot of cheaters, ) IDK, a-rules-a-rule though and I'm sure however RG handles it, it will be wrong, . To be honest, I don't really care if they inflated or deflated their testicles. It makes no difference to me. Though it seems pretty obvious they did, and Brady lied about it. What bothers me is that they were so quick to then call it circumstantial and not hard evidence. That may be so, but as has been pointed out, the same could be said for the Saints situation and they jumped all over us. Idiots will be quick to say "oh yeah but that's totally different". Is it? Because of what we were ASSUMED to have done was much worse we don't get the circumstantial excuse? Either you have the evidence or you don't. It doesn't matter the extent of the accusations. Kraft is always kissing Roger's butt, and now the reverse is happening and it is quite annoying. OldMaid likes this.
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05-08-2015, 12:18 AM	#32
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,210 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady Originally Posted by burningmetal To be honest, I don't really care if they inflated or deflated their testicles. It makes no difference to me. Though it seems pretty obvious they did, and Brady lied about it. What bothers me is that they were so quick to then call it circumstantial and not hard evidence. That may be so, but as has been pointed out, the same could be said for the Saints situation and they jumped all over us. Idiots will be quick to say "oh yeah but that's totally different". Is it? Because of what we were ASSUMED to have done was much worse we don't get the circumstantial excuse? Either you have the evidence or you don't. It doesn't matter the extent of the accusations. Kraft is always kissing Roger's butt, and now the reverse is happening and it is quite annoying. Speaking of deez nuts... Uninterrupted: Gronk Responds to Media's Handling of Deflategate \| Bleacher Report
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05-08-2015, 09:35 AM	#33
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05-08-2015, 09:48 AM	#34
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady Originally Posted by SloMotion NE was leading that game 17-7 at halftime when they checked the ball pressure. After it was corrected (?), they scored 28 points with properly inflated balls in the second half? I don't see the "advantage" angle of underinflated balls. I agree, it really didn't matter in that game at all. BUT, knowingly breaking the rules to try gain an advantage is still cheating and should be punished. I see this as a more direct infraction on the game itself than defensive players having a monitary incentive to play and hit harder. Let me say here though, I totally agree if the defense goes out and purposefully tries to hurt another player, they should be penalized. We were handed a huge penalty for something everybody knew most teams did. If the patriots slip by AGAIN being cold busted, then the league as whole should revolt. SloMotion likes this.
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05-09-2015, 01:04 PM	#36
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady Originally Posted by burningmetal To be honest, I don't really care if they inflated or deflated their testicles. It makes no difference to me. Though it seems pretty obvious they did, and Brady lied about it. What bothers me is that they were so quick to then call it circumstantial and not hard evidence. That may be so, but as has been pointed out, the same could be said for the Saints situation and they jumped all over us. Idiots will be quick to say "oh yeah but that's totally different". Is it? Because of what we were ASSUMED to have done was much worse we don't get the circumstantial excuse? Either you have the evidence or you don't. It doesn't matter the extent of the accusations. Kraft is always kissing Roger's butt, and now the reverse is happening and it is quite annoying. I'm not really comparing Bountygate to Deflategate and am just confident that Roger will handle Deflategate with the same ineptitude that he handled Bountygate and any other of his responsibilities to the league. .

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05-10-2015, 04:55 AM	#40
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady Originally Posted by SloMotion I'm not really comparing Bountygate to Deflategate and am just confident that Roger will handle Deflategate with the same ineptitude that he handled Bountygate and any other of his responsibilities to the league. . I wasn't suggesting you were comparing the two. I wanted to make the comparison myself because I don't see that much is happening to the Patriots here. People are talking about witch hunt, but it was the Colts who brought this thing up. I think the NFL just pretended to do a real investigation so as not to be accused of negligence. The rambling of the report and the dismissal of everything as being circumstantial, along with the empty "more probable than not" line seems like their way of pretending to be impartial while not really doing anything to the Patriots. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the relationship between Goodell and Kraft is known, and I have never been given a reason to NOT question Roger's credibility... Just my opinion though. Either way, I agree that he will screw it all up. That much is a given. SloMotion likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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