Really dislike Cam Newton but....
 

I really dislike the big deal the media made of him walking out of the presser. The only reason I say this is because I'd probably defend any player put in that situation, but come on... he just lost the Superbowl... of course hes going to be upset. He was obviously heavily invested in winning, and when you get that close and lose.... it obviously is hard to deal with. The media has this tendency to try to shape people, make them all respond the same exact way to the same exact things. It's really annoying.

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Go back and look at the post game interview of Russell Wilson last year after a crushing defeat to the Pats in last years SB. He stood tall and faced the media with class and professionalism.

People (media/fans etc) judge players by actions and attitude. Cam still lacks maturity.

Perception is reality.

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That's just dumb. Cam Newton isn't Russel Wilson, he shouldn't be expected to act like Russel Wilson. It's obvious that Cam Newton is a far more emotionally invested person, whereas Russel Wilson seems rather detached. They are nothing alike, and I feel like there are many well respected guys in the league that would have done similar things to what Cam Newton did. I'm not even really sure why we are even relating Cam Newton to Russell Wilson.

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Agreed! I understand that this was a difficult moment for Scam, but a Professional acts like he must, not how he feels. His actions showed he has a lot of growing up to do. The way he acted in the presser would have been unacceptable for a 10 year old.

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The only "dumb" one here is Cam. Most players & MVP's carry them selves as professionals at all times regardless of circumstance.. Especially at the QB position. It was all gravy when he was winning.

You missed the point but he can go back to Carolina and sulk, pout and crawl under his rock this off season. He'll eventually grow up.

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It's not about being Russel Wilson or any other person. It's about being a professional, as so many others have said. There are certain things expected of all adults, not just athletes. When you've been anointed as the "leader" of your team, you don't act like that. The Superbowl is NOT more important than any big moment in a regular person's life. It's just perceived that way because it's a national and, to an extent, global event.

The point there being is that there are far worse things that can happen to a person than losing the Superbowl. Yeah, you should be disappointed, and it's understandable to be dejected. But just answer the questions and deal with the rest of your emotions later. It will pass. Nobody died out there.

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Whether or not he should have answered the questions isn't the point. The point is he's a person, and not everyone is going to react the same way to things that happen. People do things in the spur of the moment. There have been several times that Tom Brady didn't even shake the opposing teams hands after losses. People get emotional about things and they react. Nobody is going to be the perfect soldier all the time... it's just a dumb idea.

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Answering the questions IS the point because it has everything to do with this incident in question. You're saying that everyone reacts differently, and that's true. His "different way" happened to be about the worst way he could have reacted. When you act like a spoiled child you earn that perception. It isn't given, it is earned.

You brought up Tom Brady not shaking hands. That's poor sportsmanship as well. That example doesn't help you in defending Cam. Cam gets more attention regarding his attitude because it has been a consistent problem with him. He's a fair weather personality.

I'm not asking him to be the perfect soldier. He wasn't merely imperfect. He acted like a pouting child. And HE has been carrying a phony chip on his shoulder about what people say about him. When you do that, you open yourself up even more.

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If you think that's the worst way he could have acted, you haven't been watching sports long enough.

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I said "about" the worst way he could have reacted. The guy just up and walked out. He completely avoided the spotlight when the going got bad. Yet we all know how much he made it about himself leading up to the game.

How much worse of a reaction could he have? Really, within reason? We're not talking about shooting everybody in the room.

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Humble Winners and Gracious Losers, I'm not seeing Cam Newton falling into either category. Also lost a lot of respect for Peyton Manning when he stormed off and wouldn't shake Drew's hand after our SB game. On the flip side Riverboat Ron gave a good speech after the game in my opinion he's a class act.

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Sometimes less is more... the less you say... the more people are going to like it.

Cam got his A$$ kicked and was experiencing deep emotions. When you hurt because your life long dream that you have put so much hard work and dreams into just died, many of us would want to curse, scream, cry or punch the fudge out of something. Imagine having the crap beat out of you for 60 minutes and have to face a locker room with 50+ other payers. Hell... Have any of you read some of the classy comments posted on this board after the Saints loose one flipping game? Should anybody be required to talk to the media after losing the Superbowl? Nobody would want to or should be required. :rolleyes:

In any case... I understand and don't hold it against him... BUT I don't feel sorry for him either. ;) :broccoli:
It's all part of growing up.

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People handle their emotions differently. For some it's easy to compartmentalize. For some its very hard to pay attention in a presser when you have a billion thoughts going through your head.

Some people are easy to anger and lash out and whine. It may have been good that he didn't say much, because what he may have said could have been far worse. I couldn't tell you how many times coaches or players say crap about officials after the game. Is that good sportsmanship? They are athletes for a living. When you put all that work and time into trying to win a championship ,it's going to really hurt when you come up a hair short of your goal.

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How people react on this board to a loss is a vastly different context. People are stating their opinions. That isn't to say some aren't childish in said opinions, and you know what? They get called out for it, too. But for the most part people are just stating what they see. We aren't teammates with these guys, and so we're not responsible for trying to look out for anybody.

When you represent your team, you have that responsibility. What do you think are one of the main reasons that pro athletes make so much more money than their job really warrants? It's because they are held to a higher standard as a public figure. I know losing sucks, and I wouldn't much feel like talking about it either. But if I were given the opportunity he has, I would stand in there and deal with it. I've dealt with worse.

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Just remember, none of us have lost the Superbowl and none of us will ever know how it feels or how we would handle it.
He handled it like a person with nothing left to say. :goodidea:

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Again, I totally get being disappointed. And I get that he could have opened his mouth and said a bunch of stupid things. But that just speaks to the lack of maturity. Whether or not it's easy to compartmentalize, there are times when you simply HAVE to do it. The questions might be dumb, but it's part of the job for these guys. It's not the end of the world. If someone in his family had died, I'd understand not talking.

But when you talk the talk, well, you know how the rest of that saying goes. Cam loses credibility because of the way he consistently carries himself with no class while winning, and pulling this after a loss. Even if anyone thinks that isn't fair, he brought it upon himself.

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Anyone remember how Steve Smith went off on Cam a few years ago ? ... http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84...ack-cam-newton

Grow up young grasshopper.

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I can't tell you EXACTLY how it would feel to lose a Superbowl, specifically, no. But without getting into details, I will just say that I've dealt with worse events. And I'm not the only one. Everyone has a story of something really disappointing or tragic happening. And I know myself well enough to know that nothing like losing a game would be enough to make me embarrass myself like that. Even if I cried at the podium (which seems unlikely for me), I'd rather that than just be disrespectful and walk out.

I know, I know. I'm not Cam. I'm not saying he has to process things exactly like me. In fact I would not encourage it, I'm not always so good with things. But there's a line. There are some behaviors that just look bad.

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The season was over and there wasn't one thing he could say that would matter or change anything. The questions were stupid and the timing wasn't right. Oh well... LOL :red:

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Burn,

I guarantee you he will sleep on it tonight, wake up tomorrow and regret the way he acted.

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Well... I guess we'll just disagree on this one. I get everything you're saying, but after watching hundreds of interviews with superbowl losing players, I haven't seen this before. I'd like to see a guy who's all about himself have a better showing when it matters. And I'm not talking about his on-field play. Answering questions in August doesn't change anything either. It's just part of their job.

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The problem is he's not a high school QB anymore, is supposed to be some kind of professional and is past the "don't traumatize/stigmatize" stage of his adult development, #shrug. Let's not make excuses for him, enable his poor behavior and just call it what it is, #shrug. It's really not even about his poor decision and the fallout from it anymore, but how he will address it moving forward. Will he learn from it & grow up? Or will he continue to act like a spoiled brat? Only time will tell, :neutral:. He made his bed, now he can lie in it ... all part of being a man/professional, #shrug.

Yes, approximately 49 QB's before Cam and countless other losing players have done it with class. What makes Cam so different? It's part of his job as a professional athlete, #shrug. He likes calling attention to himself when he's winning/successful, ad nauseum, you gotta' take the ups with the downs if you want to be considered a pro, #shrug.

It's an adult standard we all have to live by, fellas ... just sayin', ;).

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There is no excuse, no defense and no explaining away the way he behaved. The rest of his team (the guys he managed to throw under the bus before storming off) stood in and answered all the questions. You think they were any less disappointed or miserable than him? I read this morning that his offensive coordinator AND his position coach were BOTH in the room and were BOTH gesturing to him, trying to get him to take off the hood and take it like a man. He ignored them, just like my 3 year old does to me when she's upset about something, and stormed off. The difference between her and Cam is that if I tell her to knock it off, she does. She's pretty proficient with technology, maybe I can schedule some face time sessions between the two of them so she can impart some wisdom and maturity upon him.

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the real Cam was on display yesterday. By the third he was disgusted and appeared to have given up by the body language he had on the side lines and the field. He took a pounding and could not handle it. Saints MO for years was hit Cam soon and often to rattle his cage. Denver did just that.

now after the game he was a baby. media wants to defend it so be it. Does not change a thing. BABY

He came a lone way as a player but still has a long way to go to being a man.

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My last rant on Cam ...

Take the yoke of responsibility even in defeat. Remember how horribly Carson Palmer played against the Kittens 2 weeks ago? He faced the music & answered tough questions post game. By talking to the media, you (Cam) as a QB provide a shield to your team. Do what you must, do it with a square jaw. His press conference was a total of 2 minutes :rolleyes:.

By walking off the way Cam did, he opened himself up to even more criticism.

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Okay, never thought I would defend Cam, but... the main difference here is last year Russell Wilson lost a chance to "repeat" as a Superbowl Champion. No matter what happened in that game, he still had his ring. That's got to make it a little easier to swallow.

These guys work their whole lives for that moment and, I believe, are allowed to be in a crappy mood when they lose. Just my 2 cents.

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Stick,

Remember those Buffalo Bills of the 90's?? Jim Kelly went to 4 Super Bowls ... 4. Lost every single one of em. I'm willing to bet you he never walked off the podium in the disgraceful manner Cam did.

You were outplayed by a better defensive ball club. You are the MVP of the league. All talent and very little heart. Take it like a man.

That's all folks :jester:.

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I get that, but, this is a guy who is known for his enthusiasm when he is playing. A guy that passionate about winning is going to be that upset when he loses. It's his personality, you can't praise him for the joy he shows when he wins and then not expect him to show disappointment when he loses.

Oh well, agree to disagree, I guess.

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I hear you brother but it's a lot easier to look like a leader when things are great.

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If I may interject here, your statement goes against the grain of what most of us in here believe about him. It's the people who support Cam who are usually saying how his antics on the field are just passion. I see it as phony, and classless. There are lots of enthusiastic players, and people in the world. What he does goes beyond just enthusiasm, in my opinion.

Cam enjoys winning. His attitude when things go bad don't reflect a guy who's passionate about the game. Because you can be disappointed and still keep your head up and be a leader and turn the page. Cam has always been known as a pouter in bad games. This isn't something new with him. So we aren't praising him for his enthusiasm. That's the heart of the argument with him. His side will tell you he's just having fun, but the rest of us don't see it that way at all.

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How many here defended Mike Smith every time he had a hissy fit and threw his headphones to the ground during a game?

Just wondering.

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I just laughed
His red face was very funny

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For the record, Me too.

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There have been 49 Super Bowl losing QB's prior to Cam. He's the only one that I can remember that walked off during the post-game presser. If you can dab and smile and hand out balls to kids when you're winning, but act like this when you lose, then what you really are is a PUNK.

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It's doubtful that Manning has ever played that bad in a win.

Carolina's defense shut down Denver and would have won if not for Cam handing Denver two TD's. The last one was a preview of the post game interview when he fumbled and walked away from the scrum.

Like other posts, it's supposed to be amusing when he hands out balls after scores or rips down opposition team fan banners? It's not so funny when Carolina loses because of Cam. Denver must have had kryptonite on the football. Call Goodell, quick.

I guess you that can be born with size and/or talent but that doesn't mean you're born with class.

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Add our old friend "Karma" to Cam's dilemma as well.

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The true character of a man shows not during the good times, but during the challenging times.

And I'm so tired of people using his youth as an excuse. My gosh he's 26 years old. When I was his age I was married and owned a house and I knew how to act. This guy's a multi-millionaire, and he's not a boy anymore - he's a man. Time for him to start acting like one
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Cam didn't just fumble during the game a couple of times, he fumbled the presser as well.

Cam’s failure to fall on fumble defines his Super Bowl | ProFootballTalk

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Is Scam one in 23?

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