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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal You don't have to research Lavoy Finicum, I did it for you and gave you the video. Watch it. Or don't. Your choice. I know full well you were trying to make a point with the ...

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Old 08-31-2016, 09:05 AM   #1
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You don't have to research Lavoy Finicum, I did it for you and gave you the video. Watch it. Or don't. Your choice.

I know full well you were trying to make a point with the O.J case... Your point failed. He was beyond guilty, and even the jurors admitted that later. But they got caught up in his celebrity and even went so far as to say they were worried about his children losing both their parents. As if any child needs a murderer for a dad. And the guy keeps getting himself thrown back in prison. He's CLEARLY deranged.

You know why you never heard of Lavoy Finicum? Because nobody talks about it when a white person gets killed, unless they are famous. My mother knew about his death months before I ever heard anything, and SHE told me one day. If she hadn't, I still wouldn't know. When I saw the video, I couldn't believe this wasn't a big deal all over the place. But then I thought about it, and I realized it wasn't surprising at all that I hadn't heard.

There is just as much crime against white or hispanic people. This isn't the 50's or 60's anymore. But you won't hear about it. People like you are the one's running this media circus out to "prove" that the black man is oppressed by the white man. There are so many people bending over backwards to cater to the feelings of over sensitive minorities, and yet the moment someone sees some injustice, or what they perceive to be an injustice, they automatically blow it up to look like the whole country is racist.

You know why you are considered a minority right? It means you're outnumbered. If this situation were even half as bad as you think it is, you wouldn't be sitting there freely typing your BS. You are not being oppressed, nor do I think you should be, despite how little respect I have for you right now.
The feelings are mutal, I don't have any respect nor do I like you! You ask stupid questions so I should expect you to be a stupid individual. Nonetheless, I will continue to prove my points than make dumb accusations.
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:22 AM   #2
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The feelings are mutal, I don't have any respect nor do I like you! You ask stupid questions so I should expect you to be a stupid individual. Nonetheless, I will continue to prove my points than make dumb accusations.
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I have some sad news for you. No one here respects you. I know that because anybody posts videos and tries to use O.J Simpson as an example, then calls everyone stupid.... Well that person is a special kind of pathetic and ignorant.

You've made ZERO points. All you've done is post videos. You won't go looking for video's showing white people being abused by cops are by blacks. You scour the internet for anything you can use for your hatred of cops and whites.

You've been made a fool by several people. Just go back to bed. Your hatred is showing more with every post.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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I have some sad news for you. No one here respects you. I know that because anybody posts videos and tries to use O.J Simpson as an example, then calls everyone stupid.... Well that person is a special kind of pathetic and ignorant.

You've made ZERO points. All you've done is post videos. You won't go looking for video's showing white people being abused by cops are by blacks. You scour the internet for anything you can use for your hatred of cops and whites.

You've been made a fool by several people. Just go back to bed. Your hatred is showing more with every post.
Listen clearly, I give a rat A** what you think about me. You try so hard to switch the conversation from the subject of the brutality toward blacks with no success. If you claim to be the spokesman for EVERYONE in America really prove how dumb you are. I have no hatred toward cops or whites and in your case other, I don't like you but no hatred. I am simply saying wrong is wrong and right is right. When cops think more in line that when they cross path with a black individual they need to be more aggressive thats were the injustice plays a part.
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Listen clearly, I give a rat A** what you think about me. You try so hard to switch the conversation from the subject of the brutality toward blacks with no success. If you claim to be the spokesman for EVERYONE in America really prove how dumb you are. I have no hatred toward cops or whites and in your case other, I don't like you but no hatred. I am simply saying wrong is wrong and right is right. When cops think more in line that when they cross path with a black individual they need to be more aggressive thats were the injustice plays a part.
First of all, I'm white, not "other". Whatever that was supposed to mean.

I haven't avoided your crap one little bit. I have told you time and again that if you just want to scour the internet for videos of blacks being beaten or shot, you can do that. But if you want to be honest and quit playing the victim, you will ACTUALLY SEARCH beyond the walls of your insecurity that somehow only blacks are being targeted. Or that it's disproportionate in favor of blacks being killed.

I'm not a troll. I don't want to liter this forum with youtube videos. So I've tried to reason with you. But all you can do is call me stupid. So hear you go... Here's my impression of you, only with opposite colors.





If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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First of all, I'm white, not "other". Whatever that was supposed to mean.

I haven't avoided your crap one little bit. I have told you time and again that if you just want to scour the internet for videos of blacks being beaten or shot, you can do that. But if you want to be honest and quit playing the victim, you will ACTUALLY SEARCH beyond the walls of your insecurity that somehow only blacks are being targeted. Or that it's disproportionate in favor of blacks being killed.

I'm not a troll. I don't want to liter this forum with youtube videos. So I've tried to reason with you. But all you can do is call me stupid. So hear you go... Here's my impression of you, only with opposite colors.

Police kill more whites than blacks. You just don't hear about it. - YouTube

Police Asked To See Her Gun Then They Shot Her - YouTube

Police Taze And Shoot Unarmed White Teen 7 Times Before Killing Him....NO CHARGES FILED - YouTube

Police in Ottawa, Kansas fatally shot unarmed white teen 16 times! WTF? - YouTube
How does this help your argument? You might need to go back and read my statements if you think I said white people are not targeted, also! I can only come to a conclusion that you think IF WHITE PEOPLE ARE TARGETED WHY SHOULD BLACK PEOPLE PROTEST? ARE YOU SAYING IF WHITE PEOPLE TARGETED WHY IS IT A BLACK LIVE MATTER MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF A ALL LIVES MATTER? Well if you asking why is it a black live matter movement, the simple answer to this in MY OPINION is that after many complaints by blacks that police are targeting blacks many people refused to believe. people will say they must deserve what happen to them, the police was using self defense or the most ridiculous one is they cause the injury to themselves. well after the Rodney King beating was broadcast on T.V. people thought that will shed the light on the truth and justice will prevail but as you and I know the officers were acquitted of any wrong doing. Why would blacks believe in JUSTICE FOR ALL after that slap in the face? Then the assaults by pedestrian (STAND YOUR GROUND LAW) was causing a lot of blacks to be killed are assaulted (TRAYVON MARTIN tapes clearly was evidence that Zimmerman pursued Trayvon after the 911 responder told him not to follow) now you have a series of events that happening within the year with clear footage of what is happening, so that's started the BLACK LIVES MOVEMENT. Its not to say white people or other don't matter. Its to let people know we are tired of seeing our children, daughters, sons and men being slaughtered with NO JUSTICE NO PEACE


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Old 09-01-2016, 03:56 PM   #6
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How does this help your argument? You might need to go back and read my statements if you think I said white people are not targeted, also! I can only come to a conclusion that you think IF WHITE PEOPLE ARE TARGETED WHY SHOULD BLACK PEOPLE PROTEST? ARE YOU SAYING IF WHITE PEOPLE TARGETED WHY IS IT A BLACK LIVE MATTER MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF A ALL LIVES MATTER? Well if you asking why is it a black live matter movement, the simple answer to this in MY OPINION is that after many complaints by blacks that police are targeting blacks many people refused to believe. people will say they must deserve what happen to them, the police was using self defense or the most ridiculous one is they cause the injury to themselves. well after the Rodney King beating was broadcast on T.V. people thought that will shed the light on the truth and justice will prevail but as you and I know the officers were acquitted of any wrong doing. Why would blacks believe in JUSTICE FOR ALL after that slap in the face? Then the assaults by pedestrian (STAND YOUR GROUND LAW) was preventing a lot of blacks to be killed are assaulted (TRAYVON MARTIN) now you have a series of events that happening within the year with clear footage of what is happening, so that's started the BLACK LIVES MOVEMENT. Its not to say white people or other don't matter. Its to let people know we are tired of seeing our children, daughters, sons and men being slaughtered with NO JUSTICE NO PEACE
Want to know what happens to a guy like me who chooses to exercise his 'rights' and walk down certain streets in Oakland, CA after dark? Wanna know why I don't? Wanna know the color of the man giving me such very good advice, and why?

Wanna know?
Give a ****?
Bet not.

It's hard to change a man's ethos, and yours needs changing. BLM didn't bring attention to a damn thing. There exists corruption in every corner of every thing on the face of this earth so long as people are involved. You're using color as an excuse, just like Trayvon Martin. Just like Oscar Grant. Just like so many others.

Simply acting right will keep you and your kids out of most trouble, even in the face of corrupt cops. Sure works for me and my kids, and all my black friends and their kids too. Just acting right will do it. That's color blind. Black. White. Orange. Yellow. Yes sir Mr Officer. No sir Mr Officer. You may loathe the Son of a ***** for stopping you, harassing you, writing you a ticket, asking you questions. Whatever. Your experience is no different than mine. Bet.

You appear to be capable only to see only what you've been programmed to see and you're not enlightened enough to get out and take a universal stand - you only see color and you can't even admit it to yourself.

It's like that woman who said she was on the beach with her young daughter when they saw a truck drive down the road with a rebel flag and this woman clutched her child and trembled in fear at the sight. So yeah, her kid is going to grow up fearing a symbol, and she may never truly understand why. That's what I'm talking about, but I'll go ahead and bet the family farm you won't get it.

C'mon Man...
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Want to know what happens to a guy like me who chooses to exercise his 'rights' and walk down certain streets in Oakland, CA after dark? Wanna know why I don't? Wanna know the color of the man giving me such very good advice, and why?

Wanna know?
Give a ****?
Bet not.

It's hard to change a man's ethos, and yours needs changing. BLM didn't bring attention to a damn thing. There exists corruption in every corner of every thing on the face of this earth so long as people are involved. You're using color as an excuse, just like Trayvon Martin. Just like Oscar Grant. Just like so many others.

Simply acting right will keep you and your kids out of most trouble, even in the face of corrupt cops. Sure works for me and my kids, and all my black friends and their kids too. Just acting right will do it. That's color blind. Black. White. Orange. Yellow. Yes sir Mr Officer. No sir Mr Officer. You may loathe the Son of a ***** for stopping you, harassing you, writing you a ticket, asking you questions. Whatever. Your experience is no different than mine. Bet.

You appear to be capable only to see only what you've been programmed to see and you're not enlightened enough to get out and take a universal stand - you only see color and you can't even admit it to yourself.

It's like that woman who said she was on the beach with her young daughter when they saw a truck drive down the road with a rebel flag and this woman clutched her child and trembled in fear at the sight. So yeah, her kid is going to grow up fearing a symbol, and she may never truly understand why. That's what I'm talking about, but I'll go ahead and bet the family farm you won't get it.

Want to know what happens to a guy like me who chooses to exercise his 'rights' and walk down certain streets in Oakland, CA after dark?HOW CAN I ANSWER THAT? I DONT LIVE IN OAKLAND, IF YOU TOO SCARED TO WALK ASK A FRIEND OR A TRUSTWORTHY OFFICER TO WALK YOU *STUPID OR IRREVELANT QUESTIONS, GOOGLE*



You're using color as an excuse, just like Trayvon Martin. Just like Oscar Grant. Just like so many others. HOW AM I USING THIS AS A EXCUSE, WHAT AM I TRYING TO EXCUSE? IF YOU DISLIKE SOMETHING YOU SPEAK UP(PROTEST) IF YOU THE TYPE PERSON THAT SO OH WELL SORROW ME AND DO NOTHING THATS YOUR RIGHT


Simply acting right will keep you and your kids out of most trouble, even in the face of corrupt cops. Sure works for me and my kids, and all my black friends and their kids too. Just acting right will do it. That's color blind. Black. White. Orange. Yellow. Yes sir Mr Officer. No sir Mr Officer. WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF CORRUPT COP? THAT IS STUPID, IF YOU THINK A CORRUPT COP CARE IF YOU ACT RIGHT

You appear to be capable only to see only what you've been programmed to see and you're not enlightened enough to get out and take a universal stand - you only see color and you can't even admit it to yourself. IS THIS LATEST EXCUSE AGAINST PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT, THAT I AM PROGRAMMED, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM READING ANYTHING I WRITE AND I WILL DO THE SAME FOR YOU
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How does this help your argument? You might need to go back and read my statements if you think I said white people are not targeted, also! I can only come to a conclusion that you think IF WHITE PEOPLE ARE TARGETED WHY SHOULD BLACK PEOPLE PROTEST? ARE YOU SAYING IF WHITE PEOPLE TARGETED WHY IS IT A BLACK LIVE MATTER MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF A ALL LIVES MATTER? Well if you asking why is it a black live matter movement, the simple answer to this in MY OPINION is that after many complaints by blacks that police are targeting blacks many people refused to believe. people will say they must deserve what happen to them, the police was using self defense or the most ridiculous one is they cause the injury to themselves. well after the Rodney King beating was broadcast on T.V. people thought that will shed the light on the truth and justice will prevail but as you and I know the officers were acquitted of any wrong doing. Why would blacks believe in JUSTICE FOR ALL after that slap in the face? Then the assaults by pedestrian (STAND YOUR GROUND LAW) was causing a lot of blacks to be killed are assaulted (TRAYVON MARTIN tapes clearly was evidence that Zimmerman pursued Trayvon after the 911 responder told him not to follow) now you have a series of events that happening within the year with clear footage of what is happening, so that's started the BLACK LIVES MOVEMENT. Its not to say white people or other don't matter. Its to let people know we are tired of seeing our children, daughters, sons and men being slaughtered with NO JUSTICE NO PEACE

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How does it help my argument? By proving how yours is totally ignorant and inaccurate, perhaps?

You want me to go back and read what you said? As you wish. Here's just one example of you talking about black, black, black and nothing about white victims.


"Listen clearly, I give a rat A** what you think about me. You try so hard to switch the conversation from the subject of the brutality toward blacks with no success. If you claim to be the spokesman for EVERYONE in America really prove how dumb you are. I have no hatred toward cops or whites and in your case other, I don't like you but no hatred. I am simply saying wrong is wrong and right is right. When cops think more in line that when they cross path with a black individual they need to be more aggressive thats were the injustice plays a part."


I don't know how to include a quote from multiple posts, so I had to paste it, but it's on page 7 for anyone who wants to look.

I don't remember you specifically saying that NO whites get killed, but that's not what I accused you of. You're whole argument has been about the brutality towards blacks. You have made it abundantly clear that you are of the belief that this is a racial war of cops against black people. My post was to show how incredibly inaccurate that is. Pretty simple stuff.

The Rodney King story is really outdated for this argument. But I'll play along. So Rodney King was seen being beaten by cops and nothing was done to them. Ok... And I showed you proof of white people being killed by cops and nothing happened to them. The difference? You never heard of those stories, did you? What's that word again? Equality?... Well there you have it.

Sometimes terrible things happen, and people get away with it. But you act like blacks are ignored, when they are getting WAY more attention. The lack of balanced coverage by the media is what's feeding this, as I've already said.

And it isn't just the White vs. Black death rates that are being exaggerated. It's this idea that the police force has some agenda. People like you try to say that you don't hate cops, but then you are putting all the blame on them. How does that work? There are bad people, and some are cops. Most are not. But if it really bothers you that much, you should be speaking up for the rights of ALL CITIZENS, not just blacks.

So yes, it shouldn't be the black lives matter movement. It SHOULD be all lives matter. Absolutely.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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