Colin Kaepernick-discuss

saintfan · 09-01-2016, 02:03 PM

You folks know what was a sizeable portion of the Haight/Asbury population in the 60s? Kids from Marin.

See, the rich kids from Marin used to come down to the Haight, smoke a little pot, dream about Utopia, then go back home to the parent's houses on hill sides overlooking the San Francisco Bay or the Pacific Ocean.

Not all of course. There were a lot of things that converged there as most of us know, and many who were there were truly trying to make change. After 67 it became a Heroin fest and the rest is a pretty sad history.

But there were some genuinely political people involved who did make some genuinely good arguments against the establishment. It got bastardized and that's pretty much that.

To Kaepernick, here's what we know:

Took the league by storm
league figures him out (like is usually does)
Looses his starting gig
has contract squabbles with Niners
Won't renegotiate his 11 million to leave and start with Denver
Gets involved with BLM DJ Hottie
Converts to Islam
Starts wearing Castro t-shirts but nobody cares because the Che Gueva ship sailed in the 60s
Starts wearing socks with pigs wearing police hats - nobody cares
Isn't getting enough attention so sits during anthem

And all over the internet people lose their damn minds. Look this kid is looking for attention and couldn't hold an equitable conversation on the subject of his protest even with someone like me. The hottie DJ probably has as much to do with his 'protest for the downtrodden' as any true activism he might have in his tiny, pea brain. Probably (likely) much much more.

So y'all keep on yelling back and forth. Few of you can see the forest for the trees, but some of you can, and I like you. The rest of you are sheep. This isn't a race thing this is a guy trying to please his girl who also craves the spotlight that shined on him briefly...before we all came to understand he's not a very good QB.

Simple simple. Here endeth the lesson.

burningmetal · 09-02-2016, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You folks know what was a sizeable portion of the Haight/Asbury population in the 60s? Kids from Marin.

See, the rich kids from Marin used to come down to the Haight, smoke a little pot, dream about Utopia, then go back home to the parent's houses on hill sides overlooking the San Francisco Bay or the Pacific Ocean.

Not all of course. There were a lot of things that converged there as most of us know, and many who were there were truly trying to make change. After 67 it became a Heroin fest and the rest is a pretty sad history.

But there were some genuinely political people involved who did make some genuinely good arguments against the establishment. It got bastardized and that's pretty much that.

To Kaepernick, here's what we know:
Took the league by storm

league figures him out (like is usually does)

Looses his starting gig

has contract squabbles with Niners

Won't renegotiate his 11 million to leave and start with Denver

Gets involved with BLM DJ Hottie

Converts to Islam

Starts wearing Castro t-shirts but nobody cares because the Che Gueva ship sailed in the 60s

Starts wearing socks with pigs wearing police hats - nobody cares

Isn't getting enough attention so sits during anthem

And all over the internet people lose their damn minds. Look this kid is looking for attention and couldn't hold an equitable conversation on the subject of his protest even with someone like me. The hottie DJ probably has as much to do with his 'protest for the downtrodden' as any true activism he might have in his tiny, pea brain. Probably (likely) much much more.

So y'all keep on yelling back and forth. Few of you can see the forest for the trees, but some of you can, and I like you. The rest of you are sheep. This isn't a race thing this is a guy trying to please his girl who also craves the spotlight that shined on him briefly...before we all came to understand he's not a very good QB.

Simple simple. Here endeth the lesson.

I agree in principle with your statements. But while we understand Kaep is lobbying for attention, the fact remains that he is perpetuating a subject and narrative that is dividing this country. So what if he is just following his girl? It's irresponsible to make "statements" when you don't know what you're talking about, and especially if you don't even genuinely believe it... Don't you think?

So if I'm a sheep for trying to bring a little thought into a mindless finger pointing war, so be it.

SmashMouth · 09-01-2016, 04:29 PM

Meanwhile...anti-cop socks?

Thirty3 · 09-01-2016, 06:38 PM

Go MARCH if you want. Disrespecting an entire nation and it's soldiers who served and or died for you = CLASSLESS and totally ignorant.
America is the most diverse nation on earth and everyone goes about their daily lives for the most part in peace and security except in gang run neighborhoods. 300,000,000 people and a black guy gets WRONGFULLY shot by a policeman how often? Sure it happens, how often??? 10 times a year??? It happens to all races. How often does a black man get shot by a black man? In America only....guessing about 100 per DAY. 2,700 in Chicago ALONE so far this year. March on that dude. Boycott African businesses, neighborhoods and protest by occupying their streets like it's been done elsewhere. Publicly beat dads who abandon their children. Don't spit on the best thing that ever happened to you. Even dogs won't $**t where they sleep.

nola_swammi · 09-01-2016, 09:54 PM

Jeremy lane sit Colin and Reid took a knee

frydaddy · 09-01-2016, 09:56 PM

Ah, well then.. kneeling idiots.

pherein · 09-01-2016, 09:57 PM

yep NFL is not the place to make statements like this. I dont want to see it and my kids dont. He can not stand. Thats fine. But you dont preach your personal agenda when at your job, and Colin is not that good to get away with this. He should be worried about his sucky PR.
Do it on your own time and shut up during the games kid. If you were smart you wouldnt be playing football usually , so no one cares.

nola_swammi · 09-01-2016, 10:02 PM

It's going to be a interesting week

nola_swammi · 09-01-2016, 10:29 PM

Colin stand applaud for military

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/20...ary-personnel/

frydaddy · 09-01-2016, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Colin stand applaud for military

Well I mean, he has to do something at that point. The whole thing is getting messy for him quickly and he's having to make concessions already. Kneeling was a concession, guaranteed. I think the reality that he's sabotaging himself is sinking in. If he's smart hell find other ways to try to promote his cause. This is just a spectacle, and not an attractive one.

09-01-2016, 02:03 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss You folks know what was a sizeable portion of the Haight/Asbury population in the 60s? Kids from Marin. See, the rich kids from Marin used to come down to the Haight, smoke a little pot, dream about Utopia, then go back home to the parent's houses on hill sides overlooking the San Francisco Bay or the Pacific Ocean. Not all of course. There were a lot of things that converged there as most of us know, and many who were there were truly trying to make change. After 67 it became a Heroin fest and the rest is a pretty sad history. But there were some genuinely political people involved who did make some genuinely good arguments against the establishment. It got bastardized and that's pretty much that. To Kaepernick, here's what we know: Took the league by storm league figures him out (like is usually does) Looses his starting gig has contract squabbles with Niners Won't renegotiate his 11 million to leave and start with Denver Gets involved with BLM DJ Hottie Converts to Islam Starts wearing Castro t-shirts but nobody cares because the Che Gueva ship sailed in the 60s Starts wearing socks with pigs wearing police hats - nobody cares Isn't getting enough attention so sits during anthem And all over the internet people lose their damn minds. Look this kid is looking for attention and couldn't hold an equitable conversation on the subject of his protest even with someone like me. The hottie DJ probably has as much to do with his 'protest for the downtrodden' as any true activism he might have in his tiny, pea brain. Probably (likely) much much more. So y'all keep on yelling back and forth. Few of you can see the forest for the trees, but some of you can, and I like you. The rest of you are sheep. This isn't a race thing this is a guy trying to please his girl who also craves the spotlight that shined on him briefly...before we all came to understand he's not a very good QB. Simple simple. Here endeth the lesson. OldMaid and SloMotion like this.
	C'mon Man...

09-02-2016, 12:59 AM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss Originally Posted by saintfan You folks know what was a sizeable portion of the Haight/Asbury population in the 60s? Kids from Marin. See, the rich kids from Marin used to come down to the Haight, smoke a little pot, dream about Utopia, then go back home to the parent's houses on hill sides overlooking the San Francisco Bay or the Pacific Ocean. Not all of course. There were a lot of things that converged there as most of us know, and many who were there were truly trying to make change. After 67 it became a Heroin fest and the rest is a pretty sad history. But there were some genuinely political people involved who did make some genuinely good arguments against the establishment. It got bastardized and that's pretty much that. To Kaepernick, here's what we know: Took the league by storm league figures him out (like is usually does) Looses his starting gig has contract squabbles with Niners Won't renegotiate his 11 million to leave and start with Denver Gets involved with BLM DJ Hottie Converts to Islam Starts wearing Castro t-shirts but nobody cares because the Che Gueva ship sailed in the 60s Starts wearing socks with pigs wearing police hats - nobody cares Isn't getting enough attention so sits during anthem And all over the internet people lose their damn minds. Look this kid is looking for attention and couldn't hold an equitable conversation on the subject of his protest even with someone like me. The hottie DJ probably has as much to do with his 'protest for the downtrodden' as any true activism he might have in his tiny, pea brain. Probably (likely) much much more. So y'all keep on yelling back and forth. Few of you can see the forest for the trees, but some of you can, and I like you. The rest of you are sheep. This isn't a race thing this is a guy trying to please his girl who also craves the spotlight that shined on him briefly...before we all came to understand he's not a very good QB. Simple simple. Here endeth the lesson. I agree in principle with your statements. But while we understand Kaep is lobbying for attention, the fact remains that he is perpetuating a subject and narrative that is dividing this country. So what if he is just following his girl? It's irresponsible to make "statements" when you don't know what you're talking about, and especially if you don't even genuinely believe it... Don't you think? So if I'm a sheep for trying to bring a little thought into a mindless finger pointing war, so be it.

09-01-2016, 04:29 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,091 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss Meanwhile...anti-cop socks? Halo likes this.
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09-01-2016, 06:38 PM	#4
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss Go MARCH if you want. Disrespecting an entire nation and it's soldiers who served and or died for you = CLASSLESS and totally ignorant. America is the most diverse nation on earth and everyone goes about their daily lives for the most part in peace and security except in gang run neighborhoods. 300,000,000 people and a black guy gets WRONGFULLY shot by a policeman how often? Sure it happens, how often??? 10 times a year??? It happens to all races. How often does a black man get shot by a black man? In America only....guessing about 100 per DAY. 2,700 in Chicago ALONE so far this year. March on that dude. Boycott African businesses, neighborhoods and protest by occupying their streets like it's been done elsewhere. Publicly beat dads who abandon their children. Don't spit on the best thing that ever happened to you. Even dogs won't $**t where they sleep.
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255

09-01-2016, 09:54 PM	#5
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss Jeremy lane sit Colin and Reid took a knee

09-01-2016, 09:56 PM	#6
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,965 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss Ah, well then.. kneeling idiots.

09-01-2016, 09:57 PM	#7
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss yep NFL is not the place to make statements like this. I dont want to see it and my kids dont. He can not stand. Thats fine. But you dont preach your personal agenda when at your job, and Colin is not that good to get away with this. He should be worried about his sucky PR. Do it on your own time and shut up during the games kid. If you were smart you wouldnt be playing football usually , so no one cares. frydaddy likes this.

09-01-2016, 10:02 PM	#8
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss It's going to be a interesting week

09-01-2016, 10:29 PM	#9
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss Colin stand applaud for military http://blacksportsonline.com/home/20...ary-personnel/
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09-01-2016, 10:46 PM	#10
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,965 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss Originally Posted by nola_swammi Colin stand applaud for military Well I mean, he has to do something at that point. The whole thing is getting messy for him quickly and he's having to make concessions already. Kneeling was a concession, guaranteed. I think the reality that he's sabotaging himself is sinking in. If he's smart hell find other ways to try to promote his cause. This is just a spectacle, and not an attractive one. burningmetal likes this.

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