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WHODATINCA 09-25-2017 07:37 PM
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"black artists who were picked from the cotton fields by white record execs"

Here's the REAL issue reworded: "poor people picked from the cotton fields by rich people" who wanted to exploit and make money off their talent and the generational heritage of the poor culture ( which pretty much is all they had ). Racism is just the window dressing. Follow the money.

saintfan 09-25-2017 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 766572)
"black artists who were picked from the cotton fields by white record execs"

Here's the REAL issue reworded: "poor people picked from the cotton fields by rich people" who wanted to exploit and make money off their talent and the generational heritage of the poor culture ( which pretty much is all they had ). Racism is just the window dressing. Follow the money.
Those record men weren't rich. Everybody was trying to make a buck. Your theme still stands: get educated. You just look dumb.

rezburna 09-25-2017 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 766570)
Indeed you did. Were you also not insinuating they were, at least at one time, uniquely African-American?

Because they were black and most certainly trace themselves back to Africa doesn't stand. Nobody in Africa was singing the blues. This is your bias that you don't see. You see black. I see American. You can't seem to find the demarcation point.

My heritage is French. I don't know a damn thing about wine. See what I mean? You're working to hard at it man.

Can you elaborate, just a little, on the white man's contribution to the blues? What about Charlie Pride? Uh oh...

Sorry, that was weak but a funny way to make the point you're missing.
No. You see Black when it's convenient. You see American when it's convenient. The artforms were birthed slavery and Jim Crow by Black people. It originates with them. There is an influence of Afrika passed down from generation to generation, but that's neither here nor there. Afrikans...in America...aka Afrikan-Americans are the creators of these genres.

As for Charlie Pride, country music was influenced by the blues. Again...the art form birthed on plantations by slaves.

WHODATINCA 09-25-2017 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 766573)
Those record men weren't rich.
Really? Compared to the cotton pickers they were.

Whose dumb now, shinoela?

burningmetal 09-25-2017 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 766565)
White people invented the patent office. There's countless things invented by Black people that aren't accredited to them. That's ripping off creations. That's stealing culture. If you create something and I reap the financial benefit and get the recognition then that's a problem. You're making false equivalencies. Fallacies.
I am not making false equivalencies, I am making a clear point. You sit there and make a claim that "countless things have been invented by black people" who haven't been given credit, yet you have nothing to back it up.

You are just assuming that everything is a rip-off and that no one can take part in your "culture" by playing music that comes from it. So, if that's your opinion, then don't partake of the things that you or "your people" didn't create.

Now I am sure there are instances of black people having invented something, without being given credit. The same thing goes for whites. For instance, the man who invented the phone, Antonio Meucci, was ripped off by the patent office, among others, and the credit went to someone else who came along five years later using Meucci's technology. He was later kind of given unofficial credit by some, but was already dead.

If you don't have the money, especially in the old days, you could get outbid for patents, or just get screwed for some type of political reason, and it didn't matter what color you were.

Bring some facts, friend.

Beastmode 09-25-2017 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 766572)
"black artists who were picked from the cotton fields by white record execs"

Here's the REAL issue reworded: "poor people picked from the cotton fields by rich people" who wanted to exploit and make money off their talent and the generational heritage of the poor culture ( which pretty much is all they had ). Racism is just the window dressing. Follow the money.
And it has been going on since recorded time. Nothing new and it still goes on. It's actually worse in many ways today. All our TV's, cell phones, clothes, all made with one of the worse forms of slave labor. Obama approved to take Malaysia off the human rights violations lists for no real reason other than the China market being under pressure for guess what? Human rights violations. You can look all this up. I did and it opened my eyes. Slavery is still alive and kicking.

saintfan 09-25-2017 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 766575)
Really? Compared to the cotton pickers they were.

Whose dumb now, shinoela?
Oh I see, so if I have more money than you and I employ you and we both make money that's ok, unless I'm white and you're black, then it's racism?

I'm just making sure I understand your point. It is so illogical I'm afraid I need a little help.

WHODATINCA 09-25-2017 07:45 PM
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In fact, the wealthy cannot conceive of what it is like to NOT HAVE ECONOMIC PRIVILEDGE AND THE POWER THAT COMES WITH IT. This is part of the problem with the "president".

rezburna 09-25-2017 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 766576)
I am not making false equivalencies, I am making a clear point. You sit there and make a claim that "countless things have been invented by black people" who haven't been given credit, yet you have nothing to back it up.

You are just assuming that everything is a rip-off and that no one can take part in your "culture" by playing music that comes from it. So, if that's your opinion, then don't partake of the things that you or "your people" didn't create.

Now I am sure there are instances of black people having invented something, without being given credit. The same thing goes for whites. For instance, the man who invented the phone, Antonio Meucci, was ripped off by the patent office, among others, and the credit went to someone else who came along five years later using Meucci's technology. He was later kind of given unofficial credit by some, but was already dead.

If you don't have the money, especially in the old days, you could get outbid for patents, or just get screwed for some type of political reason, and it didn't matter what color you were.

Bring some facts, friend.
It's not my fault if you never took the time to research what was invented by Black people that was denied patent or simply accredited to a slave master. Google it. These things aren't hard to find. Its a widely accepted fact that slave masters took credit for the inventions of their slaves. That alone muddies the waters of who contributed what...no pun intended.

burningmetal 09-25-2017 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 766580)
It's not my fault if you never took the time to research what was invented by Black people that was denied patent or simply accredited to a slave master. Google it. These things aren't hard to find. Its a widely accepted fact that slave masters took credit for the inventions of their slaves. That alone muddies the waters of who contributed what...no pun intended.
It isn't my fault that you don't know the first thing about white history, or oppression. You make a statement, it's up to you to back it up. I back up my statements. All you are doing is saying "we get nothing, everyone rips us off", and you have no idea how many blacks or whites have been denied patents. You just hear about a few black people getting screwed by whoever, and you make your assumptions from there.


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