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Danno 09-11-2017 09:46 AM

The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer
 
The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer

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Today’s headlines tell me that Kansas City Chiefs’ player Marcus Peters sat out the National Anthem during last night’s NFL opener. I wouldn’t know, I wasn’t watching.

As consumers in America, we have a freedom to choose the products we purchase with the money we keep from our hard work after our government masters take their half. With that money, we buy the things we need and enjoy. It’s a simple concept; I don’t need or enjoy the NFL, so I do not participate in its offerings. I don’t go to games, I don’t watch them on television or the internet, and I don’t purchase NFL or player paraphernalia. I do this for a variety of reasons:

The NFL has become a bastion of political correctness and Leftist thought. It may be a small handful of players opposing their country’s anthem, but as long as it is accepted by the owners and coaches, then they have lost me as a viewer. Yes, in the U.S.A. you have the freedom to express your views however ridiculous they may be. I, too, have a right to express my disapproval of your views through my pocketbook.The NFL is a business that sells a product. I happen to now find that product unattractive, overpriced, and out of style - so I refuse to buy it.

The NFL has immersed itself in the hip-hop culture. Yes, I know this automatically makes me a racist according to the Left, but I simply don’t like the hip-hop culture and the things it represents that have nothing to do with skin color. I don’t approve of a culture whose music refers to women as “b**ches” and “h*s”, glorifies drug usage and violence, and encourages an illicit lifestyle. Plus, I don’t like the clothing. Pull up your pants, you look like an idiot. When this type of “music” blares out over the sound system in the stadium, as it did when I attended my last NFL game, I’m gone.

It’s a game. As I age, certain things become more valuable to me. Time is a resource and I refuse to give it up to something I don’t enjoy. I do still attend some college games and cheer for my alma mater, so it’s not the game I don’t enjoy; rather, it’s the commercialization and the culture. At the last professional football game I attended, I looked around at the people spending $9.00 for a beer wearing their $90 team jersey, and decided I didn’t want to be one of them. I can still enjoy the game by watching my local high school team. I can even walk onto the field afterwards and make a young person feel good by congratulating them on a good game, great tackle, or exceptional run.

The anthem. I served my country for six years, and the National Anthem brings a tear to my eye every time I hear it. Every. Time. It represents the collective sacrifice of my friends and colleagues and everyone who went before us. It’s the same flag that was draped over my former teammate’s coffin after being killed in Afghanistan. It’s personal to me, very personal. To sit it out, talk during it, raise your fist, or any other form of disrespect is unacceptable to me. Period. I’m simply not willing to look beyond that. There is no pass on this one. If you can’t stand still and respect the flag of this great nation and everything for which it stands, then you and everyone associated with you isn’t getting one dime from me.

When Chiefs fans replace the last word of the anthem with the word “Chiefs” I don’t find it cute or excuse the behavior. It’s disrespectful to the millions of brave souls who gave the ultimate sacrifice so that these slobs could swill their $9 beers and scream at players on a Sunday afternoon. It’s inappropriate, disrespectful and I’m not going to participate.

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So, Colin Kaepernick, Marcus Peters and every other flag protesting twit, this American is done with the likes of you. And, I’m not alone. Welcome to the unemployment line coming soon to your future.

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SmashMouth 09-11-2017 09:52 AM

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Ratings are down yet another 12% so far as a consequence.

:popcorn:

neugey 09-11-2017 09:55 AM

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My reasons are different. I cannot stand Goodell's greedy and two-faced ways, and the stench of it is all over the NFL. Just watching the Saints this year, and pretty much nothing else. Yesterday I didn't even bother looking at the scores let alone turn on an NFL game. Watched the US Open and HS/college football this weekend and that was plenty of entertainment for me.

Beastmode 09-11-2017 10:15 AM

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This is my second year playing fantasy football. Such a great escape from work, politics. I don't even watch the games anymore other than the Saints and highlights. Very engaging taking calculated risks, watching waiver wires, injury reports. I started Kareem Hunt for example this weekend. I don't know his politics nor do I care. He scored a massive amount of points. I could have watched the game but it was more fun watching my stats go up while doing other things. I will be watching the Saints tonight but I'm not going to watch 2-3 games a week ever again.

neugey 09-11-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 763249)
This is my second year playing fantasy football. Such a great escape from work, politics. I don't even watch the games anymore other than the Saints and highlights. Very engaging taking calculated risks, watching waiver wires, injury reports. I started Kareem Hunt for example this weekend. I don't know his politics nor do I care. He scored a massive amount of points. I could have watched the game but it was more fun watching my stats go up while doing other things. I will be watching the Saints tonight but I'm not going to watch 2-3 games a week ever again.

Right. I will get my fill of commercials and political opining just watching the game tonight!

papz 09-11-2017 01:00 PM

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Attention whores need attention. We need to stop giving these disrespectful turd holes a platform to push their personal agenda. While I'm glad the announcers made it a point to single Peters out when he did it, it's actually giving the turd exactly what he wanted. I was hoping someone would pop on the field.

Standing for the national anthem should just be a natural sign of etiquettecy like opening doors for other people, getting up and letting someone else sit who really needs it, covering your mouth when you cough... basic levels of etiquette/respect that should have been ingrained in our heads at an early stage in our lives. I would be embarrassed to see my son or daughter do such a thing on especially on national TV.

vpheughan 09-11-2017 02:02 PM

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Goodell does not work for "himself" he is an employee of the OWNERS!

neugey 09-11-2017 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 763268)
Goodell does not work for "himself" he is an employee of the OWNERS!

Right, and they won't hold him accountable for screwing things up until it really affects their bottom line. Best thing I can do is pretend that 31 out of 32 NFL teams don't even exist. My heart and soul won't let me boycott the Saints.

rezburna 09-11-2017 02:48 PM

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Shoutout to hip-hop culture, Marcus Peters, Michael Bennett, and Beast Mode.

frydaddy 09-11-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 763278)
Shoutout to hip-hop culture, Marcus Peters, Michael Bennett, and Beast Mode.

Hip hop culture? Tf is that?

rezburna 09-11-2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 763279)
Hip hop culture? Tf is that?

The article mentioned hip hop culture and the author went on to describe it in the manner in which he perceives it.

"The NFL has immersed itself in the hip-hop culture. Yes, I know this automatically makes me a racist according to the Left, but I simply don’t like the hip-hop culture and the things it represents that have nothing to do with skin color. I don’t approve of a culture whose music refers to women as “b**ches” and “h*s”, glorifies drug usage and violence, and encourages an illicit lifestyle. Plus, I don’t like the clothing. Pull up your pants, you look like an idiot. When this type of “music” blares out over the sound system in the stadium, as it did when I attended my last NFL game, I’m gone."

neugey 09-11-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 763279)
Hip hop culture? Tf is that?

An oxymoron LOL

Danno 09-11-2017 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 763278)
Shoutout to hip-hop culture, Marcus Peters, Michael Bennett, and Beast Mode.

What is hip-hop culture?

RailBoss 09-11-2017 10:11 PM

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Buses leave every day from the US to Canada. They got a nice little league up there called the Canadian Football League. They got Funky Uniforms
and you can still get your Gatorade there. And best of all you can go wave to the Canadian Flag. Choice is simple to me and the Fans love ex-NFL Players up there. After all the grass is always greener in Canada.

neugey 09-11-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 763498)
Buses leave every day from the US to Canada. They got a nice little league up there called the Canadian Football League. They got Funky Uniforms
and you can still get your Gatorade there. And best of all you can go wave to the Canadian Flag. Choice is simple to me and the Fans love ex-NFL Players up there. After all the grass is always greener in Canada.

Well if their commissioner's last name isn't Goodell, that's a good place to start.

RailBoss 09-12-2017 04:02 AM

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Everybody's got Choices.........

rezburna 09-12-2017 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 763287)
What is hip-hop culture?

In essence, rap music, break dancing, graffiti, and the art of DJ'ing. At one point it was the reflection of the lives of Black, Brown, and disenfranchised White communities during the era of the Panthers and the introduction of the crack of epidemic and war on drugs. Hip Hop is a lot of things to a lot of different people. All in all, Hip-Hop is a microcosm of Black culture in America and it gives insight to the positives and negatives of our daily lives. The music itself is more along the lines of pop these days. The same thing that happened to rock is happening to Hip-Hop.

vpheughan 09-12-2017 08:00 AM

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Goodel is doing exactly what he's being paid to do. Focus all the attention on himself. Magicians use "misdirection" all the time. "Pay no attention those owners behind the curtain pulling his strings"

Mardigras9 09-12-2017 02:40 PM

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I agree with papz, stop giving these players the attention for their protests and start bringing the active duty and veterans down on the field to stand right in front of them between camera and player. Let the camera focus on the guys and gals that sacrifice for their rights.

jeanpierre 09-14-2017 11:32 AM

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Don't give a flying f*ck what culture it is, if someone has given their life so that you live in a free society that allows you to be paid $$$$ to play a game - get off your arse and show some respect...

Otherwise, put your money where your mouth is, show you're really committed and forfeit a game check and don't play...

foreverfan 09-14-2017 12:26 PM

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I thought Chris Rock straighten this out back in 1996. :cool:



rezburna 09-14-2017 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 764051)
I thought Chris Rock straighten this out back in 1996. :cool:


Chris Rock - Black People VS. Niggaz (Bring the Pain 1996) - YouTube

The two distinctions were created to be synonymous. Funny jokes...misleading quotes.

Danno 09-14-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 764053)
The two distinctions were created to be synonymous. Funny jokes...misleading quotes.

So are you OK with Black stereotypes, or only if it comes from a black guy?

rezburna 09-15-2017 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 764073)
So are you OK with Black stereotypes, or only if it comes from a black guy?

I don't care anything at all about stereotypes. I care about the socioeconomic rise and independence of the Black community in whatever way it takes to achieve it. I lost interest in debunking stereotypes for other people outside of my culture a while ago. It's a lost cause. If you're asking would I feel different if a White man did a comedy routine about the same things, probably so. I'd feel different if a random guy called me a name as opposed to my brother, cousin, or friend. I have an understanding with the individuals I listed, just as we have a cultural understanding on things in our community.

If you're asking me about the "n" word specifically, I won't lose sleep if I read about someone other than a Black person using it. If it's directed towards me or said around me by someone outside of my race, I'd probably feel inclined to react then.

I don't find these concepts difficult to understand, but I know plenty of people who want to make them difficult. I let them do it for someone else.

foreverfan 09-15-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 764105)
If you're asking me about the "n" word specifically, I won't lose sleep if I read about someone other than a Black person using it. If it's directed towards me or said around me by someone outside of my race, I'd probably feel inclined to react then.

I don't find these concepts difficult to understand, but I know plenty of people who want to make them difficult. I let them do it for someone else.

Actually it has been used so much in comedy that I think it is funny. Only Democrats and the fake news media continue to keeping revering to the word as hate speech to support their narrative as hate speech.

Personally... I don't know any white people that use the word unless as pure comedy or a way of describing the worst part of the black community. Like I said... Chris Rock says it best. ;)



CANT FORGET THIS CLASSIC

Dave Chappelle - The Niggar Family - Video | KillSomeTime.com

Utah_Saint 09-15-2017 12:07 PM

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The protests don't bother me. I don't pay much attention to them. I figure a couple of the guys sitting during the anthem are actually passionate about their cause, the rest are just trying to be contrarian cool.

If they wanna make a political statement and their bosses are cool with it, then go for it. But, just my opinion, pissing off most of the general public is a stupid way to protest. They're certainly not winning people over to their cause.

rezburna 09-15-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 764135)
Actually it has been used so much in comedy that I think it is funny. Only Democrats and the fake news media continue to keeping revering to the word as hate speech to support their narrative as hate speech.

Personally... I don't know any white people that use the word unless as pure comedy or a way of describing the worst part of the black community. Like I said... Chris Rock says it best. ;)


Curb Your Enthusiasm -Larry said NIGGA! - YouTube

CANT FORGET THIS CLASSIC

Dave Chappelle - The Niggar Family - Video | KillSomeTime.com

I know white people who use it in all forms and fashions and I find nothing funny about it whatsoever. Chris Rock may have said it best to you, but he most certainly doesn't speak on my behalf. I don't care to partake in the Democrat vs Republican/Liberal vs Conservative debates. None of these things represent me, nor were they created with me and mine in mind. History fuels that word being considered hate speech. It has nothing to do with political identity. White people shouldn't be using it to describe any part of the Black community, but seeing how it has no bearings on socioeconomics, it's not at the top of my priority list.

QBREES9 09-15-2017 10:07 PM

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CLASSIC

jeanpierre 09-15-2017 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 764105)
I don't care anything at all about stereotypes. I care about the socioeconomic rise and independence of the Black community in whatever way it takes to achieve it. I lost interest in debunking stereotypes for other people outside of my culture a while ago. It's a lost cause. If you're asking would I feel different if a White man did a comedy routine about the same things, probably so. I'd feel different if a random guy called me a name as opposed to my brother, cousin, or friend. I have an understanding with the individuals I listed, just as we have a cultural understanding on things in our community.

If you're asking me about the "n" word specifically, I won't lose sleep if I read about someone other than a Black person using it. If it's directed towards me or said around me by someone outside of my race, I'd probably feel inclined to react then.

I don't find these concepts difficult to understand, but I know plenty of people who want to make them difficult. I let them do it for someone else.

This is where the road splits for many who want to see the Black community succeed by any means, rather working with others...

arsaint 09-24-2017 11:08 PM

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These jackasses need to realize that their efforts are an insult to most of those who put on the uniform.

You want to protest Trump, Obama or any other politician or cause then feel free but the national anthem and the flag are not the vehicle to do so.

Spoiled millionaires out of touch with mainstream America as Americans pony up the dough for their pay checks.

Men and women died, were maimed, or gave up time with their families to provide a safe place for you to be filthy rich and you spit in their face by disrespecting this nation.

Sure this country is not perfect, but its as close as it gets on earth.

NFL will suffer as a whole for allowing this to continue and expand in scope... you should all be cut and allowed to find a job here in the real world with the rest of us. I can guarantee that players are available to take each and every one of your places...


PS - to the Saints players participating, I hope all 10 of you are cut

Beastmode 09-25-2017 12:04 AM

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I no longer watch the games. Only highlights and track my fantasy scores. I have been doing this for several years. I do attend a couple of games but likely won't be doing that anymore. The sport is dying. It's dying ever year slowly but surely. It has nothing to do with "hip hop", kneeling, or the N word. People just don't care anymore. The brain damage is real. Parents don't want the sport. It's going to die.

foreverfan 09-25-2017 06:34 AM

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BUT THE QUESTION OF THE DAY WAS....
what did George Soros paid the NFL to make people sit down for the national anthem.

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vpheughan 09-25-2017 10:34 AM

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Boycott these "Official Sponsors"


Anheuser-Busch
Barclaycard US
Bose
Bridgestone
Campbell's Soup Company
Castrol
Courtyard Marriott
Dairy Management, Inc. (Fuel Up to Play 60)
Dannon
Extreme Networks
FedEx
Frito-Lay
Gatorade
Hyundai Motor America
Mars Snackfood
Microsoft
Nationwide
News America
Papa John's
Pepsi
Procter & Gamble
Quaker
Verizon
Visa
USAA

pinch 09-25-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 763607)
Goodel is doing exactly what he's being paid to do. Focus all the attention on himself. Magicians use "misdirection" all the time. "Pay no attention those owners behind the curtain pulling his strings"

In every other industry, employees are a representation of their employer and if you do something disrespectful while representing the employer you are subject to repercussions. We're all supposed to pretend like the rule doesn't apply in this scenario because it wouldn't be PC to do so. The media has created a climate where supporting the President or being overly-patriotic is toxic.

The owners are in a tough spot because they will be strung-up by the media if they dare to take a stance against these players. The fans now have a chance to voice their disapproval by not supporting the league. In the end, everyone will suffer.

But IMO, this is exactly what these players are trying to accomplish through their protest.

These players feel that their people being wronged and disrespected, so they feel they are just returning the favor. They will in turn piss off veterans, which will in turn piss off white people, who will then turn on the league, whose owners will be hit in the pocketbook.

In this way they achieve their goal of making everyone marginalized.

Don't be fooled into thinking it has any other goal. Their point was made long ago, it's not even about that anymore.

It's payback.

pinch 09-25-2017 02:42 PM

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For those of you wondering how this will all end.

I foresee this continuing on for a week or two, with TV viewership (and more importantly, related NFL sales) continuing to decline. This will drive the media as a stand-off of sorts beings to form: pissed-off fans versus the league. Owners' hands will be tied as will have no choice but to stand with the players who wear the uniforms.

Eventually, when things get bad enough, I see the man who started this whole thing stepping in and calling an end to the protests. Kaepernick will come out with some BS about how this whole thing created a dialog which is what his original goal was. He'll be hailed as a hero and uniter by the league and the media and we'll all be expected to be participants in the healing.

That's just my prediction.

Seeing as the league's response to this whole mess was closely coordinated across all teams, I wouldn't be surprised if there is already an agreement in place for all players to begin standing starting next week. I think they understand the blow back from this won't be good for who they see as their slave masters. If an agreement already isn't in place, I think one will quickly be formed after a week or two.

saintfan 09-25-2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pinch (Post 766513)
For those of you wondering how this will all end.

I foresee this continuing on for a week or two, with TV viewership (and more importantly, related NFL sales) continuing to decline. This will drive the media as a stand-off of sorts beings to form: pissed-off fans versus the league. Owners' hands will be tied as will have no choice but to stand with the players who wear the uniforms.

Eventually, when things get bad enough, I see the man who started this whole thing stepping in and calling an end to the protests. Kaepernick will come out with some BS about how this whole thing created a dialog which is what his original goal was. He'll be hailed as a hero and uniter by the league and the media and we'll all be expected to be participants in the healing.

That's just my prediction.

Seeing as the league's response to this whole mess was closely coordinated across all teams, I wouldn't be surprised if there is already an agreement in place for all players to begin standing starting next week. I think they understand the blow back from this won't be good for who they see as their slave masters. If an agreement already isn't in place, I think one will quickly be formed after a week or two.

You can make a certain and safe bet that the marketing department of the NFL is pulling all-nighters that much is for sure.

Your prediction is a likely as any - the NFL will not approach this in any other way outside their bottom line end game. That's why the whole thing is so silly.

Beastmode 09-25-2017 04:16 PM

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NFL is in a no win situation. On one hand, the anthem, flag, tribute to Veterans, police and first responders are a big part of the "NFL" experience. On the other, ant-anthem, flag haters, Veteran haters and police haters are an increasingly bigger percentage of their employees and the media in general. Staying in the locker room is likely the best solution right now for all teams. It eliminates the visual of the problem and silences the kneelers. Out of sight out of mind. Back to business.

pinch 09-25-2017 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 766525)
NFL is in a no win situation. On one hand, the anthem, flag, tribute to Veterans, police and first responders are a big part of the "NFL" experience. On the other, ant-anthem, flag haters, Veteran haters and police haters are an increasingly bigger percentage of their employees and the media in general. Staying in the locker room is likely the best solution right now for all teams. It eliminates the visual of the problem and silences the kneelers. Out of sight out of mind. Back to business.

Or maybe even just get rid of the song altogether?

I just read that Jesse Jackson has joined the list of people pushing for a boycott. You know what that means.

Halo 09-25-2017 04:34 PM

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TV Ratings: ‘Sunday Night Football’ Down Again On Day Of Player Protests | Deadline

Beastmode 09-25-2017 04:35 PM

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Need to find out what is going on in Chicago with all the black on black murders. That situation is out of control. If that takes kneeling at the National Anthem to get things going I am all for it.


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