Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

Crusader · 10-09-2009, 08:31 AM

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday, a stunning decision that comes just eight months into his presidency.

Less than nine months into his presidency, Barack Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

1 of 2 The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it honored Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

The president had not been mentioned as among front-runners for the prize, and the roomful of reporters gasped when Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel committee, uttered Obama's name.

The president, who was awakened to be told he had won, said he was humbled to be selected, according to an administration official.

The Nobel committee recognized Obama's efforts to solve complex global problems including working toward a world free of nuclear weapons.

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said.

Jagland said the decision was "unanimous" and came with ease.

He rejected the notion that Obama had been recognized prematurely for his efforts and said the committee wanted to promote the president just it had Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 in his efforts to open up the Soviet Union.

"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population," it said.

Obama's recognition comes less than a year after he became the first African-American to win the White House. He is the fourth U.S. president to win the prestigious prize and the third sitting president to do so.

The announcement Friday in Oslo, Norway, came as a surprise -- Obama had not been mentioned among front-runners -- and the roomful of reporters gasped when Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel committee, announced Obama's name. Jagland said the decision was unanimous and came with ease.

He rejected the notion that Obama had been recognized prematurely for his efforts and said the committee wanted to promote the president just it had Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 in his efforts to open up the Soviet Union.

Jagland said he hoped the prize would help Obama resolve the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, last year's laureate, said it was clear the Nobel committee wanted to encourage Obama on the issues he has been discussing on the world stage.

"I see this as an important encouragement," Ahtisaari said.

The committee wanted to be "far more daring" than in recent times and make an impact on global politics, said Kristian Berg Harpviken, director of the International Peace Research Institute.

And Wangari Muta Maathai, the Kenyan environmentalist who won the 2004 Peace Prize, said the win for Obama, whose father was Kenyan, would help Africa move forward.

"I think it is extraordinary," she said. "It will be even greater inspiration for the world. He has shown how we can probably come together, work together in a cooperative way."

The award comes at a crucial time for Obama, who has initiated peace missions to key parts of the globe.

Obama's envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell, has returned to the region to advocate for peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians. Mitchell met Thursday with Israeli President Shimon Peres. He plans to meet Friday with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before talking with Palestinian leaders in the West Bank.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton starts a six-day trip to Europe and Russia on Friday. On the trip, the secretary will discuss the next steps on Iran and North Korea, and international efforts to have the two countries end their nuclear programs.

The centerpiece of the trip will be her visit to Moscow, where she will work toward an agreement to take the place of the Start II arms control pact, which expires December 5. She also will address the new bilateral presidential commission that is working on a broad range of issues, from arms control to health.

Mohamed ElBaradei, who won the 2005 peace prize for his efforts to prevent nuclear energy being used for military means, said Obama deserved to win for his efforts to bring Iran to the table for direct nuclear talks with the United States.

"I could not think of anybody who is more deserving," said ElBaradei, the chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

As the news of Obama's win broke online, postings on social network sites Twitter and Facebook expressed surprise. Many started with the word: Wow.

The last sitting U.S. president to win the peace prize was Woodrow Wilson in 1919. The other was Theodore Roosevelt in 1906. Jimmy Carter had been out of office for more than two decades when he won in 2002.

This year's Peace Prize nominees included 172 people -- among them three Chinese dissidents, an Afghan activist and a controversial Colombian lawmaker -- and 33 organizations, the highest number of nominations ever.

The deadline for nominations must be postmarked by February 1 each year. Obama was inaugurated on January 20.

The Nobel recipient receives a prize of about $1.4 million.

Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize - CNN.com

I personally have to say I feel its no a bad choice, he has done amazing in strenghtening the relations between the US and the rest of the world, the muslim world in particular. Impressive in only 8 month in office. I still feel its a little premature thou.

Danno · 10-09-2009, 07:08 PM

Terrorists and America haters worldwide applaud.

I wonder what they saw during his 11 days in office that warranted this?

Oh, I know... he wants to weaken America, so hats off to Obama the Marxist.

Crusader · 10-09-2009, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Terrorists and America haters worldwide applaud.

I wonder what they saw during his 11 days in office that warranted this?

Oh, I know... he wants to weaken America, so hats off to Obama the Marxist.

Danno, I usually respect and enjoy your posts but that was some om the dumbest stuff I read here.

ArmySaintFan · 10-09-2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Danno, I usually respect and enjoy your posts but that was some om the dumbest stuff I read here.

Really?? what do you see him doing other than weakening america? is he making us stronger by going to countries like Iran and kissing ass? I think not

Crusader · 10-10-2009, 06:47 AM

Not being american gives me quite the different perspective of what he is doing. A lot of hate and animosity towards the USA had vanished during his first 8-9 month in office. Not only among extremists but among regular europeans like myself.

Make no misstake, I love USA and will go there atleast once a year but I didn't like the Bush administration at all. Starting two wars, one for revenge and one for oil doesn't sit really well with the ret of the world. Its kinda like being the biggest kid in the playground, either you be th ebully that harrasses the weaker or you be the champion who protects those in need. President Obama has brought that hope to the world that the USA will once again be that champion, country out to create peace and prosperity, not war and hate. If that ain't strenghtening the country I don't know what would be.

And he's not going to Iran kissing ass. He's actually trying something called diplomacy. You could bomb Iran back to the stoneage, that still would not help. They would build their nuclear weapons or by them either way. And then they would really have a reason to be hateful towards the US. Iran in reality is not mad directly at the USA but at USA helping Israel, but thats a subject I won't go in to right now.

And I just want to add, while I don't like the wars I support the troops. Sweden has troops in afghainistan too and I'm not happy about that either, a bunch of my friends and teammates (both swedish and american) has gone and I support them all.

CheramieIII · 10-10-2009, 09:17 AM

The only award you can receive for actually doing nothing. Who are the judges, I bet Simon, Randy and Paula or Ellen now! roflmao

CheramieIII · 10-10-2009, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Not being american gives me quite the different perspective of what he is doing. A lot of hate and animosity towards the USA had vanished during his first 8-9 month in office. Not only among extremists but among regular europeans like myself.

Make no misstake, I love USA and will go there atleast once a year but I didn't like the Bush administration at all. Starting two wars, one for revenge and one for oil doesn't sit really well with the ret of the world. Its kinda like being the biggest kid in the playground, either you be th ebully that harrasses the weaker or you be the champion who protects those in need. President Obama has brought that hope to the world that the USA will once again be that champion, country out to create peace and prosperity, not war and hate. If that ain't strenghtening the country I don't know what would be.

And he's not going to Iran kissing ass. He's actually trying something called diplomacy. You could bomb Iran back to the stoneage, that still would not help. They would build their nuclear weapons or by them either way. And then they would really have a reason to be hateful towards the US. Iran in reality is not mad directly at the USA but at USA helping Israel, but thats a subject I won't go in to right now.

And I just want to add, while I don't like the wars I support the troops. Sweden has troops in afghainistan too and I'm not happy about that either, a bunch of my friends and teammates (both swedish and american) has gone and I support them all.

I guess he made the rest of the world feel warm and fuzzy while making Americans Hot and Dizzy. I say let him go to another country and be President. Unemployment still going up, we're still spending money like there's no tomorrow, Illegal Aliens gone wild, he's divided the country with his racist opinions, prerequisite for a CZAR position; don't pay your taxes and be a communist. Here's an article for ya:

Saturday, August 22, 2009
What has the new administration accomplished?

I started thinking the other day, what has the President done, or not done for that matter, since captivating America with his boyish smile and preacher's wit all on the way to winning the highest office in the land? These are only the issues I could think of off the top of my head and it's a fairly good size head but I still couldn't think of everything:

1. Closing Gitmo - Well it surely was easy signing that executive order to close Gitmo but finding some friends to take the prisoners didn't work and now the solution is to bring them to American soil. Are you nuts? Yes, you are! Even if you fulfill this campaign promise you won't really be solving the problem you'll only be relocating it.

2. Bring the troops home - Let's see, they'd already worked out the process for America's withdrawal from Iraq before you got involved and you haven't mentioned Afghanistan in a while and some military personnel are telling you we may have to increase troop numbers there. Oh wait you can't do that because you promised to bring them home. Damn rock and a hard place ain't it! There's nothing here to see, keep moving along please.

3. Raising taxes on the wealthy - This would be real easy to do. Guess that pen broke after signing the Gitmo Closure. See Issue #1.

4. Stimulus Package - You've spent 10% of the money that was shoved down America's throat and rushed through the legislature and for what? For the stimulus to work you would've had to spend some of that money, so once again your misdirection didn't work and instead you propped up the mismanaged banks and automobile makers with loans. I guess those that have money can keep getting as much as they want, but for Americans who pay your damn check you just keep wanting more. Still no substance to this presidency and as a matter of fact, I'm getting really wee wee'd off right now! I never thought I could use that in a sentence.

5. Cash for Clunkers - See Issue #4. The solution; give more money to the automakers who took our money in the first place, then 2 out of 3 of the biggies claimed bankruptcy (took more of our money along with everyone else's). I will give you the fact that it might put some autoworkers back to work for a few weeks, but we're not even really sure of that, now are we?

6. Health care - What you and some Democrats are proposing will destroy the very system you say you want to save (not really). You've already received concessions from the American Hospital Association who said it was negotiating on behalf of it's member hospitals, well not mine. You see I've worked in the industry for about 22 years and this is what will happen if your plan was passed: it wouldn't ensure every uninsured American, so at best the problem remains, uninsured patients still go to the Emergency Room, smaller and distressed hospitals close because they've been forced to accept reduced payments, unemployment rate increases because of those hospital closings, people have to drive further for health care, people don't get health care because they have to drive further for it, health care is rationed because there aren't enough providers, doctors still won't accept the new public option insurance, suppliers to health care organizations have to lay off employees because demand has shrunk and the entire supply chain is effected. I had to stop there because the only positive that will come out of a public option will be that the government controls it. You tried to use the Post Office as an example of why we should do this, well it's broke so that would mean that we could look forward to another government run plan going broke. Oh joy joy! Once again nothing here to see, keep moving!

7. Racism - I can't believe that you actually jumped to the conclusion that a man of color was being discriminated against by a white cop without any facts of what actually took place other than the obvious fact that one man was black and one man was white. This is the day that I actually saw your true colors and I will never believe a word you ever say. I might be a redneck but you're damn sure a racist. There is something to see here, just not what the President thought we'd see.

8. Change - Lucky I've still got some left. I'll give you this one. Things have changed for the worse since you took office. What about that unemployment rate not going above 8%, oh wait that's another issue.

And finally, you said you wanted to bring the country together and I must say you have but it's united in it's fight against you, so I don't think that was the unity you were looking for. You can try to manipulate the media and what's said to Americans to protect your image, but remember Americans are who give you your image and lately you are as transparent as your administration was supposed to be!

SmashMouth · 10-10-2009, 03:33 PM

All good comments ... my grandfather always told me (he was a retired colonel in USArmy and a WWII vet manning the Eastern Europe front) that Finland is the only country to ever repay the USA. All other countries still owe a huge debt to the USA for their not speaking German or Japanese today, including my country of origin, France. It is at all still possible to collect those seriously delinquent account receivables from all those countries whom we freed from those tyrannies? Could we erase our deficit if were able to collect? One thing is sure now, no one respects the USA anymore as the rest of the world feels they have carte blanche to continue to pilfer and pillage. Is that the kind of peace and change that was intended?

SmashMouth · 10-10-2009, 06:02 PM

Also this...

Barack Obama has failed to match George W. Bush's multiple visits | Louisiana Politics & Government - - Louisiana Politics | State Legislature News - NOLA.com

gumbeau · 10-21-2009, 10:20 AM

Weakness and improved diplomatic relations always precede the biggest wars.

10-09-2009, 08:31 AM	#1
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize (CNN) -- President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday, a stunning decision that comes just eight months into his presidency. Less than nine months into his presidency, Barack Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize. 1 of 2 The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it honored Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." The president had not been mentioned as among front-runners for the prize, and the roomful of reporters gasped when Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel committee, uttered Obama's name. The president, who was awakened to be told he had won, said he was humbled to be selected, according to an administration official. The Nobel committee recognized Obama's efforts to solve complex global problems including working toward a world free of nuclear weapons. "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said. Jagland said the decision was "unanimous" and came with ease. He rejected the notion that Obama had been recognized prematurely for his efforts and said the committee wanted to promote the president just it had Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 in his efforts to open up the Soviet Union. "His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population," it said. Obama's recognition comes less than a year after he became the first African-American to win the White House. He is the fourth U.S. president to win the prestigious prize and the third sitting president to do so. The announcement Friday in Oslo, Norway, came as a surprise -- Obama had not been mentioned among front-runners -- and the roomful of reporters gasped when Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel committee, announced Obama's name. Jagland said the decision was unanimous and came with ease. He rejected the notion that Obama had been recognized prematurely for his efforts and said the committee wanted to promote the president just it had Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 in his efforts to open up the Soviet Union. Jagland said he hoped the prize would help Obama resolve the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, last year's laureate, said it was clear the Nobel committee wanted to encourage Obama on the issues he has been discussing on the world stage. "I see this as an important encouragement," Ahtisaari said. The committee wanted to be "far more daring" than in recent times and make an impact on global politics, said Kristian Berg Harpviken, director of the International Peace Research Institute. And Wangari Muta Maathai, the Kenyan environmentalist who won the 2004 Peace Prize, said the win for Obama, whose father was Kenyan, would help Africa move forward. "I think it is extraordinary," she said. "It will be even greater inspiration for the world. He has shown how we can probably come together, work together in a cooperative way." The award comes at a crucial time for Obama, who has initiated peace missions to key parts of the globe. Obama's envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell, has returned to the region to advocate for peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians. Mitchell met Thursday with Israeli President Shimon Peres. He plans to meet Friday with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before talking with Palestinian leaders in the West Bank. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton starts a six-day trip to Europe and Russia on Friday. On the trip, the secretary will discuss the next steps on Iran and North Korea, and international efforts to have the two countries end their nuclear programs. The centerpiece of the trip will be her visit to Moscow, where she will work toward an agreement to take the place of the Start II arms control pact, which expires December 5. She also will address the new bilateral presidential commission that is working on a broad range of issues, from arms control to health. Mohamed ElBaradei, who won the 2005 peace prize for his efforts to prevent nuclear energy being used for military means, said Obama deserved to win for his efforts to bring Iran to the table for direct nuclear talks with the United States. "I could not think of anybody who is more deserving," said ElBaradei, the chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency. As the news of Obama's win broke online, postings on social network sites Twitter and Facebook expressed surprise. Many started with the word: Wow. The last sitting U.S. president to win the peace prize was Woodrow Wilson in 1919. The other was Theodore Roosevelt in 1906. Jimmy Carter had been out of office for more than two decades when he won in 2002. This year's Peace Prize nominees included 172 people -- among them three Chinese dissidents, an Afghan activist and a controversial Colombian lawmaker -- and 33 organizations, the highest number of nominations ever. The deadline for nominations must be postmarked by February 1 each year. Obama was inaugurated on January 20. The Nobel recipient receives a prize of about $1.4 million. Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize - CNN.com I personally have to say I feel its no a bad choice, he has done amazing in strenghtening the relations between the US and the rest of the world, the muslim world in particular. Impressive in only 8 month in office. I still feel its a little premature thou.
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10-09-2009, 07:08 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Terrorists and America haters worldwide applaud. I wonder what they saw during his 11 days in office that warranted this? Oh, I know... he wants to weaken America, so hats off to Obama the Marxist.

10-09-2009, 07:36 PM	#3
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Originally Posted by Danno Terrorists and America haters worldwide applaud. I wonder what they saw during his 11 days in office that warranted this? Oh, I know... he wants to weaken America, so hats off to Obama the Marxist. Danno, I usually respect and enjoy your posts but that was some om the dumbest stuff I read here.

10-10-2009, 06:47 AM	#5
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Not being american gives me quite the different perspective of what he is doing. A lot of hate and animosity towards the USA had vanished during his first 8-9 month in office. Not only among extremists but among regular europeans like myself. Make no misstake, I love USA and will go there atleast once a year but I didn't like the Bush administration at all. Starting two wars, one for revenge and one for oil doesn't sit really well with the ret of the world. Its kinda like being the biggest kid in the playground, either you be th ebully that harrasses the weaker or you be the champion who protects those in need. President Obama has brought that hope to the world that the USA will once again be that champion, country out to create peace and prosperity, not war and hate. If that ain't strenghtening the country I don't know what would be. And he's not going to Iran kissing ass. He's actually trying something called diplomacy. You could bomb Iran back to the stoneage, that still would not help. They would build their nuclear weapons or by them either way. And then they would really have a reason to be hateful towards the US. Iran in reality is not mad directly at the USA but at USA helping Israel, but thats a subject I won't go in to right now. And I just want to add, while I don't like the wars I support the troops. Sweden has troops in afghainistan too and I'm not happy about that either, a bunch of my friends and teammates (both swedish and american) has gone and I support them all.
	W.T. Sherman is my favorite General. After all he did order Atlanta to be burned to the ground.

10-10-2009, 09:17 AM	#6
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize The only award you can receive for actually doing nothing. Who are the judges, I bet Simon, Randy and Paula or Ellen now! roflmao

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10-09-2009, 08:21 PM	#4
ArmySaintFan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 171	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Originally Posted by Crusader Danno, I usually respect and enjoy your posts but that was some om the dumbest stuff I read here. Really?? what do you see him doing other than weakening america? is he making us stronger by going to countries like Iran and kissing ass? I think not

10-10-2009, 09:30 AM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Originally Posted by Crusader Not being american gives me quite the different perspective of what he is doing. A lot of hate and animosity towards the USA had vanished during his first 8-9 month in office. Not only among extremists but among regular europeans like myself. Make no misstake, I love USA and will go there atleast once a year but I didn't like the Bush administration at all. Starting two wars, one for revenge and one for oil doesn't sit really well with the ret of the world. Its kinda like being the biggest kid in the playground, either you be th ebully that harrasses the weaker or you be the champion who protects those in need. President Obama has brought that hope to the world that the USA will once again be that champion, country out to create peace and prosperity, not war and hate. If that ain't strenghtening the country I don't know what would be. And he's not going to Iran kissing ass. He's actually trying something called diplomacy. You could bomb Iran back to the stoneage, that still would not help. They would build their nuclear weapons or by them either way. And then they would really have a reason to be hateful towards the US. Iran in reality is not mad directly at the USA but at USA helping Israel, but thats a subject I won't go in to right now. And I just want to add, while I don't like the wars I support the troops. Sweden has troops in afghainistan too and I'm not happy about that either, a bunch of my friends and teammates (both swedish and american) has gone and I support them all. I guess he made the rest of the world feel warm and fuzzy while making Americans Hot and Dizzy. I say let him go to another country and be President. Unemployment still going up, we're still spending money like there's no tomorrow, Illegal Aliens gone wild, he's divided the country with his racist opinions, prerequisite for a CZAR position; don't pay your taxes and be a communist. Here's an article for ya: Saturday, August 22, 2009 What has the new administration accomplished? I started thinking the other day, what has the President done, or not done for that matter, since captivating America with his boyish smile and preacher's wit all on the way to winning the highest office in the land? These are only the issues I could think of off the top of my head and it's a fairly good size head but I still couldn't think of everything: 1. Closing Gitmo - Well it surely was easy signing that executive order to close Gitmo but finding some friends to take the prisoners didn't work and now the solution is to bring them to American soil. Are you nuts? Yes, you are! Even if you fulfill this campaign promise you won't really be solving the problem you'll only be relocating it. 2. Bring the troops home - Let's see, they'd already worked out the process for America's withdrawal from Iraq before you got involved and you haven't mentioned Afghanistan in a while and some military personnel are telling you we may have to increase troop numbers there. Oh wait you can't do that because you promised to bring them home. Damn rock and a hard place ain't it! There's nothing here to see, keep moving along please. 3. Raising taxes on the wealthy - This would be real easy to do. Guess that pen broke after signing the Gitmo Closure. See Issue #1. 4. Stimulus Package - You've spent 10% of the money that was shoved down America's throat and rushed through the legislature and for what? For the stimulus to work you would've had to spend some of that money, so once again your misdirection didn't work and instead you propped up the mismanaged banks and automobile makers with loans. I guess those that have money can keep getting as much as they want, but for Americans who pay your damn check you just keep wanting more. Still no substance to this presidency and as a matter of fact, I'm getting really wee wee'd off right now! I never thought I could use that in a sentence. 5. Cash for Clunkers - See Issue #4. The solution; give more money to the automakers who took our money in the first place, then 2 out of 3 of the biggies claimed bankruptcy (took more of our money along with everyone else's). I will give you the fact that it might put some autoworkers back to work for a few weeks, but we're not even really sure of that, now are we? 6. Health care - What you and some Democrats are proposing will destroy the very system you say you want to save (not really). You've already received concessions from the American Hospital Association who said it was negotiating on behalf of it's member hospitals, well not mine. You see I've worked in the industry for about 22 years and this is what will happen if your plan was passed: it wouldn't ensure every uninsured American, so at best the problem remains, uninsured patients still go to the Emergency Room, smaller and distressed hospitals close because they've been forced to accept reduced payments, unemployment rate increases because of those hospital closings, people have to drive further for health care, people don't get health care because they have to drive further for it, health care is rationed because there aren't enough providers, doctors still won't accept the new public option insurance, suppliers to health care organizations have to lay off employees because demand has shrunk and the entire supply chain is effected. I had to stop there because the only positive that will come out of a public option will be that the government controls it. You tried to use the Post Office as an example of why we should do this, well it's broke so that would mean that we could look forward to another government run plan going broke. Oh joy joy! Once again nothing here to see, keep moving! 7. Racism - I can't believe that you actually jumped to the conclusion that a man of color was being discriminated against by a white cop without any facts of what actually took place other than the obvious fact that one man was black and one man was white. This is the day that I actually saw your true colors and I will never believe a word you ever say. I might be a redneck but you're damn sure a racist. There is something to see here, just not what the President thought we'd see. 8. Change - Lucky I've still got some left. I'll give you this one. Things have changed for the worse since you took office. What about that unemployment rate not going above 8%, oh wait that's another issue. And finally, you said you wanted to bring the country together and I must say you have but it's united in it's fight against you, so I don't think that was the unity you were looking for. You can try to manipulate the media and what's said to Americans to protect your image, but remember Americans are who give you your image and lately you are as transparent as your administration was supposed to be!
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10-10-2009, 03:33 PM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize All good comments ... my grandfather always told me (he was a retired colonel in USArmy and a WWII vet manning the Eastern Europe front) that Finland is the only country to ever repay the USA. All other countries still owe a huge debt to the USA for their not speaking German or Japanese today, including my country of origin, France. It is at all still possible to collect those seriously delinquent account receivables from all those countries whom we freed from those tyrannies? Could we erase our deficit if were able to collect? One thing is sure now, no one respects the USA anymore as the rest of the world feels they have carte blanche to continue to pilfer and pillage. Is that the kind of peace and change that was intended?

10-10-2009, 06:02 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Also this... Barack Obama has failed to match George W. Bush's multiple visits \| Louisiana Politics & Government - - Louisiana Politics \| State Legislature News - NOLA.com

10-21-2009, 10:20 AM	#10
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Weakness and improved diplomatic relations always precede the biggest wars.